Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

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This nikka lying, of course this bullshyt would happen right as soon as we could trade his ass:snoop:

His lover Fiz probably told him to fake the injury to keep him from getting traded so they can keep spooning in the locker room.
 

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Props to Burke man, stayed ready and has performed well.
offense was humming until he got in the game :hubie:
I put it this way, guys like mudiay and trey, only have an effect when their shots are going in(and they were)...and they alienate the rest of the team
his impact wasnt good enough to overcome the nets playing team basketball despite their best players being hurt or playing badly (d-lo)
we got some players that wanna play like harden without the harden impact
frank may never be the guy to get you 20, but he makes the game a 5 on 5 game and supplements team basketball.
vonleh got his career high mostly because of frank
the foul trouble took frank out and vonlehs offense virtually disappeared...because tim, trier, and trey all think score first...and if that doesnt appear they'll throw it back out so we can iso all over again.
the ball never swings multiple times for open looks.
 

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Props to Burke man, stayed ready and has performed well.
I may not care much for his game but he’s conducted himself like a true pro. His number was called and he was ready.
His lover Fiz probably told him to fake the injury to keep him from getting traded so they can keep spooning in the locker room.
You a fool breh:mjlol:
 

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offense was humming until he got in the game :hubie:
I put it this way, guys like mudiay and trey, only have an effect when their shots are going in(and they were)...and they alienate the rest of the team
his impact wasnt good enough to overcome the nets playing team basketball despite their best players being hurt or playing badly (d-lo)
we got some players that wanna play like harden without the harden impact
frank may never be the guy to get you 20, but he makes the game a 5 on 5 game and supplements team basketball.
vonleh got his career high mostly because of frank
the foul trouble took frank out and vonlehs offense virtually disappeared...because tim, trier, and trey all think score first...and if that doesnt appear they'll throw it back out so we can iso all over again.
the ball never swings multiple times for open looks.

I think he forced the issue a bit in the second half. But I also felt like he moved the ball better than normal in the first half. Honestly I think Knox and THJ missed some looks that they normally don't and with those two cold, Burke started to press (and I don't blame him for that decision). The one player I do think got less touches was Trier, but he got opportunities late. Put it this way, would you rather have seen Mudiay the way he's been performing or Burke tonight?
 

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I think he forced the issue a bit in the second half. But I also felt like he moved the ball better than normal in the first half. Honestly I think Knox and THJ missed some looks that they normally don't and with those two cold, Burke started to press (and I don't blame him for that decision). The one player I do think was got less touches was Trier, but he got opportunities late. Put it this way, would you rather have seen Mudiay the way he's been performing or Burke tonight?
trey has decent enough vision to atleast hit the roller.
i've never seen a pg have the ball in his hands as much as mudiay and be that bad at hitting the roller
how many alley oops has mudiay thrown this year?
Id undoubtedly rather watch trey play over mudiay.
mudiay is good at recognizing the obvious pass. he rarely passes people open....or sees the 2nd and 3rd pass.
 

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offense was humming until he got in the game :hubie:
I put it this way, guys like mudiay and trey, only have an effect when their shots are going in(and they were)...and they alienate the rest of the team
his impact wasnt good enough to overcome the nets playing team basketball despite their best players being hurt or playing badly (d-lo)
we got some players that wanna play like harden without the harden impact
frank may never be the guy to get you 20, but he makes the game a 5 on 5 game and supplements team basketball.
vonleh got his career high mostly because of frank
the foul trouble took frank out and vonlehs offense virtually disappeared...because tim, trier, and trey all think score first...and if that doesnt appear they'll throw it back out so we can iso all over again.
the ball never swings multiple times for open looks.


Spot on!

Put Frank around Top Tier talent, and watch how his offensive game will start clicking.

Same reason why I feel Dotson > Trier

Yeah Trier the Flashier more aggressive scorer.
But Dot the better Basketball player.

You explained it perfectly Homie
 

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trey has decent enough vision to atleast hit the roller.
i've never seen a pg have the ball in his hands as much as mudiay and be that bad at hitting the roller
how many alley oops has mudiay thrown this year?
Id undoubtedly rather watch trey play over mudiay.
mudiay is good at recognizing the obvious pass. he rarely passes people open....or sees the 2nd and 3rd pass.

That's where I'm at fam. If Frank doesn't run into foul trouble and you reverse the minutes, I don't think Burke's approach would stand out as much. I'd love to turn Mudiay into an asset (or use him to move a contract) and let Frank start with Burke as the back-up.
 

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It's losses like last night that help to show the fanbase is ready for this rebuild and tank. The Knicks lost to the rival Nets by 99-109, mainly by getting outrebounded and putting the Nets on the line 47 times. The blue and orange in my veins can't help but wonder if, after Fiz got ejected in the Rockets game, the zebras had a bit of a point to prove. But here's the thing, I wasn't too upset about the free throws or the loss to a rival. As I look around, it doesn't seem like anybody else is (well Kanter's upset but let's be honest, the loss has zero to do with it). That's because a lot of young guys played well and I'm not worried about the ones that weren't on their A game. Frank and Trier both seem like they're back on track and that is much more important than a rivalry with NYC's red headed step child of a franchise. Honestly though, they've got a likeable roster, great head coach and I'm happy for them. We have our own roster to look at, so let's get into it fam:

Frank: With Mudiay sitting out on a shoulder injury, Frank Ntilikina got a start at PG and responded with some of his most aggressive play all season. This was Frank attacking the lane quickly and finding players for kickouts. It was the French Prince posting up his man to get deep and collapse the defense. What we got was a playmaker last night and it was unfortunate that his aggression on defense led to foul trouble otherwise the numbers might be more clear. Ntilikina played 19 minutes due to foul trouble, tallying 4 points, 5 assists, 4 boards, 2 steals and a block on 2/5 shooting. He also turned in a stifling defensive performance, forcing a lot more TO's than that 2 steal mark can explain. There was a three play sequence in the fourth where he stole a ball, then blocked the next shot and then drew a charge on the next trip. D'Angelo Russell really struggled any time Frank was out there on him, reminding me of the Revis comparisons we drew at times last year. Welcome to Nitty island. On the down side, Frank's jumper still just refuses to fall and it's the next step to unlocking his potential. His aggression also led to a few bad fouls that kept him off the floor when the Knicks needed his defense. I like the aggressive version of Frank on both ends, but he doesn't need to pick up a pair of off-ball fouls on the night bumping a cutter too enthusiastically. Be aggressive but stay smart about it young gun, you're on your way.

THJ: It's become a fairly common refrain but Tim Hardaway Jr's gotta shoot better to be effective. He was 2/14 from the field and 0/6 from three point land in a 10 point, no assist, 3 rebound performance over 39 minutes. That's not a typo; Timmy played just under 40 minutes to put that stat line up. But here's a somewhat positive, I felt like his shot selection was improved. He took a couple of forced three pointers, but a lot of his jumpers were warranted attempts that I typically expect to go down. He also attacked the rack and drew 9 FTA's, I just wish he'd been even more aggressive going into the lane but he did take a beating on drives so it's understandable. The more concerning issue is the lack of playmaking, rebounding and defensive play. He HAS to contribute to other facets of the game when his jumper isn't falling and that just didn't happen in this one.

Knox: In a similar manner to Hardaway, Kevin Knox got a lot of good looks in space but just couldn't find his jumper. Knox went 2/11 from the floor and 0/4 from three for 7 points in his 25 minutes of run. Without the jumper falling, the Nets were able to step back and intercept him on drives as well creating a struggle statline of 4 boards, no assists, 2 steals and 4 turnovers. The turnovers do point to the fact that Knox didn't always settle for the jumper; he tried to attack that lane and get himself going. He had a beautiful floater fall early but as the Nets felt comfortable falling back on him, his drives started to go into traffic and look out of control. I don't hate that because he's super young and figuring out how to get himself going. In this case, driving while mindful of the kick out or cutter is probably the next step. The rebounding is the most frustrating bit though, because I've been harping on his potential to board all season and we really coulda used those boards. Tough game for the youngster but there was enough promise in there to not be mad.

Lance: Lance played his brand of hard work, heady basketball in route to a very solid performance. Lance spent 26 minutes picking up 6 points on 3/3 shooting and adding 3 boards, 2 steals and 2 blocks. Obviously the 6 points and 3 boards is forgettable, that's not really what a LT game is all about fam. It's his defensive play that always pops in his best games. I really do think the whole team rotates better while he's out there and he rarely makes mistake outside of transition situations. I do think that the rebounding woes are partially because his presence with the starters means a smaller team all around but he really did a lot that I appreciated in this one.

Vonleh: The Nets decided to let Noah Vonleh have all the space in the world and he responded by letting that rock fly. Vonleh took 11 three pointers last night, only making 3, but with as much space as the Nets gave him it was the right thing to do. Whenever he drew Allen even a little bit close, he was able to body that man and finish strong. That all translated to a career night for the young veteran. The Knicks big went 9/18 on the night, scoring a career high 22 points to go along with 13 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 blocks without turning the rock over once. There's never a need to worry about Vonleh's defense or effort on the night, he may have lapses but he's been consistently good on both counts. The one obvious issue is that you don't really want Noah Vonleh to be doing a Luke Kornet impression and firing off more than one third of your team's three pointers. Reel that in big fella. As an aside, we need a nickname for him. Help me out fam!

Burke: Trey Burke got the Enes Kanter treatment a lot earlier than Enes Kanter did. Like a true professional however, Trey Burke took in stride and when opportunity knocked; Burke had himself a nice offensive performance. Burke fired in an efficient 25 points off of 10/19 shooting plus 2/4 from three. He also added 5 assists, 2 steals and block with just 1 TO over a 33 minute run. There's no two ways about Burke's game, it's weighted toward keeping the ball in his own hands. But in this one, he had the wherewithal to seek kick outs and swing the ball when he noticed the Nets unbalanced. That helped him stay efficient and pick up some assists. Knox and Timmy's struggles may have led to some of Burke's extra takes rather than a lack of awareness and with how well he shot, this is the game to do it. So yes, the ball stuck but I'm giving him a pass, I saw signs of a willing passer honestly and I also believe it'd help to not have Frank in foul trouble. That way when Burke starts to overdo it, he can get reeled back. Defensively, Burke had good effort and used his hands to make up some of his size deficit, but over 33 minutes his limitations were bound to show up. But overall this was a good performance.

Trier: The one player who I believe tends to suffer from sharing the floor with Burke is Allonzo Trier. The two are very similar stylistically with Trier needing the ball in his hands to produce. Zo had a very solid performance last night, but with less touches to work with, he never really got the chance to go off like he's capable of. Iso Zo put up 13 points, 2 assists and 2 steals over 24 minutes on 4/6 shooting with 2/2 from three and 3/4 from the line. Everything was solid, everything was efficient and we got an attempted lob to Mitch that got him free throws (I can't help but keep pointing out this connection after every game). But Zo's breakout potential felt muted by the fact that Burke was going off himself and there's only one rock to share. I will add that I harsh on Trier for his defense last game (and the metrics didn't agree with my assessment btw) but I liked a few things I saw from him in this one. He was aggressive at the rim for a guard and had some nice moments as the weakside defender as well.

Dot: The trend of players getting looks they normally can and missing those continues with Damyean Dotson. Dot shot 1/3 from three and 1/5 overall to finish with 3 points over 22 minutes. He's another player who the Nets were able to get away with dropping on instead of having to chase him off the line every time. Dot did add 2 assists and a steal but it was just a quiet game for him. Defensively, I don't have much to report. This simply wasn't one of his better performances.

Lee: Courtney Lee got five minutes to quickly score 3 points and grab a board. What's important is that he still looks like his usual self, so opposing GM's...if you want a solid two player with high IQ, a good motor and fresh legs for your extended playoff run...boy do we have a bargain for you. Honestly, Courtney Lee deserves a playoff team more than we deserve to trade him. He's the vet I want to see go the most but not out of any animosity, purely out of appreciation.

Robinson: There are probably a few of you that read the Frank bit and then couldn't help but go straight to Mitch, I feel you. Mitchell Robinson was an absolute menace out there. It's scary driving the lane into Loc Dog with the nuke and that's what Robinson is. He challenges everything withing a five foot radius of him like Neji with Byakugan activated. KP and Mitch are going to turn MSG into a no-fly zone very soon, word to LaGuardia. Mitch tallied 6 points, 4 boards and 4 blocks in 16 minutes. There was a point where Mitch was in the paint surrounded by three black shirts and Trier just lobbed it up for Robinson to literally fly briefly and grab. Two downsides did appear though. Robinson's strength is still there to be exploited by stronger big men under the glass and by virtue of trying to redirect every single shot, Mitch is sometimes out of position to grab the rebound. But I'm still not happy that only got 16 points in spite of just 2 fouls.

Fiz: So this is tale of two David Fizdale's. In game, I had a couple of complaints for Fiz. I wanted Mitch to play more and felt that in spite of the foul trouble, Frank shoulda come back in earlier during the fourth (before the deficit hit double digits). Tim Hardaway's 39 minutes seemed absurd to look at and I also felt that during the third quarter doldrums it would have been good to let Hezonja have a shot. But the signs of development from the youth already had me ready to be pretty apologetic to those issues. Then somebody asked about the very vocal Enes Kanter and Coach Fizdale (with a capital C) dropped the hammer on him in an honest but fair critique that spoke to where this season appears to be heading. Fizdale said it's time to put players in the roles they'll be in next year and playing a style that he intends to play them with. It had all the bite of a soap opera soliloquy that closes with "he knew what this was!" Timmy caught a bit of a stray bullet on it, but it came off as explaining why Tim's gotten such a massive workload in spite of his troubles. That realness that Fiz just dropped may not be for everybody, but I feel like it's right at home with this fanbase (maybe not, I don't speak for yall so lemme know). All that needs to be said at the moment is that Fizdale has calmed my skepticism for a while and I'm a little bit less worried about the trade deadline than when I started yesterday.
 
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Nothing makes me happier than the Nets kicking the Knicks in the back. This victory gave me no such emotion. Knicks just suck and are floundering in every possible way.
 
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