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Daniel.

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Why isn’t Frank Ntilikina playing?

Why not just move him to the g league?

Probably for the same reasons Dot and Burke racked up some DNP's.

Saying he's being kept off the court to be traded is the more fun perspective to take though I guess. :yeshrug:
 

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He’s gonna be part of that John Wall package?

Also I think trading him might be for his own good. I still think he can be a great player but playing in New York ain’t for everyone

You see Knox having his struggles

No.. Just no. Knicks are not trading away a young 20 year old defensive PG. Fiz doing the same thing like he done with Burke, Mario, and Dot. By not playing a couple games. Frank will have to earn his minutes again and I like this method. Fiz and the staff know what they are doing. The whole point is to develop.

And please don't ever bring up Wall again. :scust:
 

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Hill on Knox: “He went out in Las Vegas [in summer league] and did very well and now he struggles a little bit,’’ Hill said. “I’m not too down on that. All rookies, they figure it out at their own pace. I do think he has tremendous upside and is trying to figure it out. He’s learning about the game — pace, talent level. I think his skill set, size, character, basketball intellect — I do think he has a chance to be a really good player in the league.’’

Hill on Frank: “In person I was blown away with his size,’’ Hill said. “Good length, good athlete. I still think he’s raw and needs to get his shot and ball-handling tighter. He has good things to work with. That’s a tough position.”

Teams are looking for more from their point guard nowadays than just being a quarterback, Hill said.

“In this day and age, you don’t have to be a facilitator/decision-maker, but you have to be able to put the ball in the basket and shoot,’’ Hill said. “There’s loads of examples of point guards who weren’t great shooters and worked at it and became good shooters."


“If he can develop his shot, I love his length and potential on the defensive end. Like a few of the guys they have, they’re trying to figure out who they are. It may take some time. Not everybody is going to come in like [Kristaps] Porzingis and have an impact right away.”

As the youngest team in the league, Hill sees the Knicks (8-17) at the same stage as Orlando a few years back. Hill said the Magic gave up too soon on some of their youngsters — Victor Oladipo, Tobias Harris, Elfrid Payton, though held onto the emerging Aaron Gordon.

[Coach David Fizdale] is giving them an opportunity to develop young players,’’ Hill said. “They don’t get better unless they play. It may not result in wins but establishing a foundation for success. By and large, they’re competing.

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Thank you, Hill. :salute:
 

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He’s gonna be part of that John Wall package?

Also I think trading him might be for his own good. I still think he can be a great player but playing in New York ain’t for everyone

You see Knox having his struggles
:snoop: Breh, someone posted a tweet saying that rumor was bullshyt and you still in here talm bout it. Knox is 2 months into his nba career and you already saying NY isn’t for him:mjlol: no wonder we can’t develop anyone here.
 

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:snoop: Breh, someone posted a tweet saying that rumor was bullshyt and you still in here talm bout it. Knox is 2 months into his nba career and you already saying NY isn’t for him:mjlol: no wonder we can’t develop anyone here.

No I’m saying maybe it ain’t for Frank. Specifically playing PG. Just by how young and timid frank is and how he over thinks and seems overwhelmed

Then there’s a player like Trier who is a few months in unfazed and clearly built for NYC and the big stage

I bet maybe if Frank was on the clippers with Doc he’d be playing similar to how Shai is cause I really see them as the same type of player talent wise and style

Only problem is Frank is riding the bench and losing confidence and Shai is getting playing his game

Knox will be fine but he’s not having the rookie year I expected
 

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The defensive effort last night was atrocious. Both teams played with the defensive urgency of an allstar game. I don't have the patience to do a full breakdown after that one, so just notes on a few players

- Vonleh and Kanter were reliable as usual. Vonleh is the impending FA that I'd most want back on the Knicks and it's not remotely close.

- Starting backcourt went 12 for 34; 8 assists to 6 TOs; and if not for three technical free throws, they woulda gotten to the line 2 times each. The one thing they did well was make their three pointers (8/17). Mudiay is still showing some of the improvements to he's had one legitimately good performance in the last 5 games (39% from the field on over 13 attempts with less than a 2:1 assist to TO ratio in that span).

- Hezonja definitely has some offensive chemistry with the starters but it hasn't translated to many positive impact games out there. Clarence Gaines goes in on this kid on twitter like I used to go in on Lance Thomas.

- Knox looked really promising. He's so big that he can get his shot off without being bothered even when space is pretty tight. His rebound numbers aren't great or consistent but most nights, he'll have at least one or two standout boards that show promise. Even though the kid is still forcing some shots, he's making some nice heads up passes in recent runs (there's a fourth quarter pick and roll with Mitch that leapt off the screen in this aspect). Where he needs work is ball handling, strength and balance, as well as defensive awareness; two out three will probably have to wait until the offseason.

- Mitch, even at 21 minutes, isn't playing enough. I mean that rhetorically rather than a knock on Fiz; he got in foul trouble that trimmed his time in the first half that cost him. But it's crazy how many plays he effects defensively while he's out there and there are little things, like being more patient with his hands against ball handlers, that he seems to be improving on quickly. He needs to get the early fouls in check so that he can start pushing 25 mpg.

- Trier doesn't look comfortable at PG to me. At least, he's not able to be the relentless attacker that we were getting before this shift. It looks like he's trying to be more mindful as a passer, but his awareness and vision could use work...he missed a few kick-out opportunities last night. I'll be real about this, even Mudiay and Burke seem to be more pressed to attack than playmake at this point in Fizdale's system (the playbook does seem to be expanding a bit at least)...so I'm not sure how great the returns for Trier will be with this experiment, but I do like that he's built a bit of chemistry with Mitch.

- Speaking of chemistry, Lee has none with the second unit. I think that's the problem more than rust. Give it time.

- Dotson shot badly, 0/6 from three and 2 for 11 total. He still grabbed some boards and actually tried on defense. We're looking at a lot of players that don't do enough to make up for their bad shooting games. Dot might not always hit his shots, but he'll be reliable for defense and help out on the boards every night.
 

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Off Realgm:
Defensive starting lineup (Frank, Dot, Tim, Noah, Mitch):

106.6 ORTG, 98.5 DRTG, 8.1 NetRTG

New starting lineup (Mudiay, Tim, Mario, Noah, Kanter):

104.9 ORTG, 110.4 DRTG, -5.5 NetRTG

Those are the only two line-ups that have logged more than 90 minutes together so far.
 

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What's the consensus on Rui Hachimura? I like Knox but I like Hachimura's potential...

Any prospects you guys like for 2019? (apart from the obvious ones) I thought Rui Hachimura would declare this year but he's going back to college. I wouldn't take him in the lottery but he's an intriguing prospect.

:jbhmm:
 

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Burke is hurt, Dotson played, Frank just sucks

....are you saying that Burke and Dotson didnt get DNP Coach's decision at any time this year? Or did you not understand the point I was making because you were so trigger happy to say Frank sucks you forgot all other bits of common sense? :jbhmm:
 
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