Never said it was a bad gig breh ... Do you, Stinger.
But let's be clear Nash is first ballot HOF'er compared to Sting.
We gonna have to agree to disagree and keep it pushing on that note breh
-P-
Kevin Nash Comments On Sting Getting A WWE Alumni Section
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We gonna have to agree to disagree and keep it pushing on that note breh
-P-
Post this shyt so I canbreh
Wish I had a comprehensive selection but it's all random. Meltz is for certain one ornery fukk when it comes to Sting.
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Found this:
Freakin' Awesome Network Forums - Dave Meltzer on Sting RE: Hall of Fame credentials
and this:
Freakin' Awesome Network Forums - Dave Meltzer on Sting RE: Hall of Fame credentials
and this:
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Thread is straight piff with the Stink real talk 
Sting wasnt booked properly in WCW, so although he was the top babyface his title reigns were messed up by bad storylines. Sting got lost in the shuffle with other stars and politics.
Unfortunately when trying to answer the question from Meltzer and others who dont believe Sting is a sure fire Hall of Famer, we can see that they are in denial and revert back to:
Sting was not a draw (not in context to the companies he worked for, and he was made champion in 1990, which was too late for NWA.) It ignores that he was influential in the Monday Night Wars and being on WCWs greatest PPVs. He drew within the context of his crappy run organizations. The Ultimate Warrior made the WWF a ton of money. Sting was better in every way. If Vince grabbed Steve instead of Jim from the UWF, we wouldnt be having this debate.
Sting was not talented. Usually in reference to his mic work or workrate, but falls into the trap of comparing him to specific wrestler who were experts at certain skill. Sting was extremely athletic and used to jump off the top rope onto the floor onto his opponents. His power was fantastic as well- press slams. He had a mean drop kick.
Sting never changed his style. Sting had four gimmicks and each was played differently. Sting is an all-around wrestler: above average on every aspect especially since he was a bodybuilder. He learned from the best in the NWA.
Sting actually doesnt have the longevity because his workrate decreased as The Crow and with TNA: Yet 10-14 years are solid work should be the only consideration. Using raw numbers and its around 25 years if one if to ignore his schedule.
Let me throw out some WON HOF names, and you think about how much Sting is inferior to them on draw, talent, or longevity where Sting has be punished and bashed:
Abdullah the Butcher, Red Berry, Ted DiBiase, Dynamite Kid, Ric Flair, Karl Gotch, Billy Graham, Stan Hansen, Bret Hart, Danny Hodge, Tom Jenkins, Don Leo Jonathan, Dump Matsumoto, The Road Warriors, Ricky Steamboat, Ray Stevens, Vader, Édouard Carpentier, Jushin Liger, Mick Foley,Wahoo McDaniel,Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Bob Backlund, Masahiro Chono, Ultimo Dragon, The Freebirds, HHH, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Konnan, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio Jr, Steve Williams, and John Cena.
The PWHOF
George Steele, Chris and John Tolos, Mark Lewin, Mike and Ben Sharp, Ivan Koloff, Dominic DeNucci, JYD, Jimmy Snuka, The Samoans, Tito Santana, Jody Hamilton.
Keeping Sting out every year is an injustice.
Sting is UNDERRATED because of his Halls of Fame snub and the negative remarks from Meltzer and other smart marks on the Wrestling Classic Forums who refuse to vote him in the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. It boils down to ONE thing: Sting was never in the WWF/WWE to be in a position to draw. Should his loyalty be held against him? He never sold out.
-P-
Unfortunately when trying to answer the question from Meltzer and others who dont believe Sting is a sure fire Hall of Famer, we can see that they are in denial and revert back to:
Sting was not a draw (not in context to the companies he worked for, and he was made champion in 1990, which was too late for NWA.) It ignores that he was influential in the Monday Night Wars and being on WCWs greatest PPVs. He drew within the context of his crappy run organizations. The Ultimate Warrior made the WWF a ton of money. Sting was better in every way. If Vince grabbed Steve instead of Jim from the UWF, we wouldnt be having this debate.
Sting was not talented. Usually in reference to his mic work or workrate, but falls into the trap of comparing him to specific wrestler who were experts at certain skill. Sting was extremely athletic and used to jump off the top rope onto the floor onto his opponents. His power was fantastic as well- press slams. He had a mean drop kick.
Sting never changed his style. Sting had four gimmicks and each was played differently. Sting is an all-around wrestler: above average on every aspect especially since he was a bodybuilder. He learned from the best in the NWA.
Sting actually doesnt have the longevity because his workrate decreased as The Crow and with TNA: Yet 10-14 years are solid work should be the only consideration. Using raw numbers and its around 25 years if one if to ignore his schedule.
Let me throw out some WON HOF names, and you think about how much Sting is inferior to them on draw, talent, or longevity where Sting has be punished and bashed:
Abdullah the Butcher, Red Berry, Ted DiBiase, Dynamite Kid, Ric Flair, Karl Gotch, Billy Graham, Stan Hansen, Bret Hart, Danny Hodge, Tom Jenkins, Don Leo Jonathan, Dump Matsumoto, The Road Warriors, Ricky Steamboat, Ray Stevens, Vader, Édouard Carpentier, Jushin Liger, Mick Foley,Wahoo McDaniel,Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Bob Backlund, Masahiro Chono, Ultimo Dragon, The Freebirds, HHH, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Konnan, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio Jr, Steve Williams, and John Cena.
The PWHOF
George Steele, Chris and John Tolos, Mark Lewin, Mike and Ben Sharp, Ivan Koloff, Dominic DeNucci, JYD, Jimmy Snuka, The Samoans, Tito Santana, Jody Hamilton.
Keeping Sting out every year is an injustice.
Sting is UNDERRATED because of his Halls of Fame snub and the negative remarks from Meltzer and other smart marks on the Wrestling Classic Forums who refuse to vote him in the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. It boils down to ONE thing: Sting was never in the WWF/WWE to be in a position to draw. Should his loyalty be held against him? He never sold out.
-P-
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puppetmaster i wanna agree but you got a sting avatar so 
Don Dada Barbosa
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Why you nikkaz hating on Sting for something you can say on almost all the wrestlers who were huge at one point or another? 
Sting has two iconic gimmicks, carried WCW and was one of the only reasons to watch it when it started sucking. Has had many memorable feuds, has great mic presence, is an at least decent wrestler and did a lot for the business. Wasn't afraid to put anyone over, and yet was always over cause he oozed charisma. He drawed you in, has done mroe for the industry than others.
nikkaz calling Sting the old Cena really need to look into what they're talking about. Cause Sting got over despite everything, he wasn't constantly pushed down the audiences throats till kids started liking him cause he won all the time. Sting was over cause he had "it" which is something a lot fo this new class sans CM Punk don't have.
Meltzer is an idiot
Dude is looking for a reason not to add Sting when he has the very same reasons he added others and was sometimes better, pulling the "what's so different?" card when its appropriate.
TNA is a retirement home for all the wrestlers, not just Sting. So that's retarded reasoning.
But hey, a wrestler who's managed to pull in more crowds than 90% of the industry and was at times the biggest wrestler in the world. Has had iconic runs, fantastic matches, memorable feuds and is still talked about by everybody today isn't in some idiotic wrestling nerd's hall of fame and that's funny?
nikkaz stay hating.
Sting has two iconic gimmicks, carried WCW and was one of the only reasons to watch it when it started sucking. Has had many memorable feuds, has great mic presence, is an at least decent wrestler and did a lot for the business. Wasn't afraid to put anyone over, and yet was always over cause he oozed charisma. He drawed you in, has done mroe for the industry than others.
nikkaz calling Sting the old Cena really need to look into what they're talking about. Cause Sting got over despite everything, he wasn't constantly pushed down the audiences throats till kids started liking him cause he won all the time. Sting was over cause he had "it" which is something a lot fo this new class sans CM Punk don't have.
Meltzer is an idiot
Dude is looking for a reason not to add Sting when he has the very same reasons he added others and was sometimes better, pulling the "what's so different?" card when its appropriate.TNA is a retirement home for all the wrestlers, not just Sting. So that's retarded reasoning.
But hey, a wrestler who's managed to pull in more crowds than 90% of the industry and was at times the biggest wrestler in the world. Has had iconic runs, fantastic matches, memorable feuds and is still talked about by everybody today isn't in some idiotic wrestling nerd's hall of fame and that's funny?
nikkaz stay hating.
puppetmaster i wanna agree but you got a sting avatar so
I'm quite objective to his actual standing in history all
aside. Always have been. It's one thing to dislike him for his kid oriented cheesy nature he often has displayed, it's another to speak as if he was a blind squirrel who found a lonely acorn in 1997 and overlook his body of work/ business acumen like Meltzer and his drones often tend to when its convienient to their argument -P-
But hey, a wrestler who's managed to pull in more crowds than 90% of the industry and was at times the biggest wrestler in the world. Has had iconic runs, fantastic matches, memorable feuds and is still talked about by everybody today isn't in some idiotic wrestling nerd's hall of fame and that's funny?
Meltzer's Hall of Fame isn't just his picks. Your favorite wrestler probably has a vote. It's the "real" Hall of Fame.
Don Dada Barbosa
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Let's look at the rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame which is famous for snubs like Deep Purple, Rush and others. Just because you got snubbed out of a hall of fame don't mean shyt.
It doesn't revise history. Benoit was there to celebrate in WMXX, the Montreal Screwjob was cowardly and Sting is one of the best to ever do it. That shyt won't change no matter how you feel about it now.
Stop it.
Cena was already over as a heel long before he started winning all the time. THEN he made a face turn and became the flagship of the company, at which point the smarks jumped ship and the kids got on. But let's not pretend like his entire career is manufactured.
Rock N' Roll keeps guys out for political reasons. What political reasons would possibly keep kid killer "in" on a recall vote yet Stink can't get anywhere close to the required percentage?