Keith Ellison ETHERS Dhoruba bin-Wahad in 2010...these pro-black panthers are running a tired program. Revolutionary talk is dead

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did you even listen to this? ellison got schooled on the nature of systems and the difficulty of change from within. furthermore, ellison was making arguments that appeal to white economic anxiety as a source for coalition building which you spend lots of man-hours posting tweets against.
 

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did you even listen to this? ellison got schooled on the nature of systems and the difficulty of change from within. furthermore, ellison was making arguments that appeal to white economic anxiety as a source for coalition building which you spend lots of man-hours posting tweets against.
Did YOU listen?

The game is the game and being an ex-con ranting about dead radicals in the 60s ain't the wave.

Ellison later became the guy who locked up corrupt cops.

Tell me how you wanna be? :ufdup:
 

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Did YOU listen?

The game is the game and being an ex-con ranting about dead radicals in the 60s ain't the wave.

Ellison later became the guy who locked up corrupt cops.

Tell me how you wanna be? :ufdup:
that still doesnt support him ethering anybody. he was flustered and defensive the whole time.

and these people dont lock up corrupt cops without people like those radicals making it a political necessity to do so.
 

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that still doesnt support him ethering anybody. he was flustered and defensive the whole time.

and these people dont lock up corrupt cops without people like those radicals making it a political necessity to do so.
He was an elected standing member of congress at the time. Ellison telling a fellow radical (if you really know Ellison) to go fukk himself wasn't on the table in a public venue.
 

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He was an elected standing member of congress at the time. Ellison telling a fellow radical (if you really know Ellison) to go fukk himself wasn't on the table in a public venue.
i know ellison was on the periphery of some activists in the past, none of that has to do with anything about the argument they were having. he got schooled and was emotionally hurt. this thread is weird because the video is the exact opposite of what you are saying, which is also why it is hosted on far leftist YT channels and a communist website. the left won the argument and had the elected official copping pleas and sounding emotional.
 

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i know ellison was on the periphery of some activists in the past, none of that has to do with anything about the argument they were having. he got schooled and was emotionally hurt. this thread is weird because the video is the exact opposite of what you are saying, which is also why it is hosted on far leftist YT channels and a communist website. the left won the argument and had the elected official copping pleas and sounding emotional.
he didn't get schooled. In fact, he straight up asked this dude what he was doing besides saying how fukked up things are.

You can navel gaze or you can jump in that frying pan.

Ellison is certified.

Jared Ball is increasingly a clown in my eyes. Thats why Greg Carr lowkey shyts on him for just being a talking mouth who spins his wheels.
 

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he didn't get schooled. In fact, he straight up asked this dude what he was doing besides saying how fukked up things are.

You can navel gaze or you can jump in that frying pan.

Ellison is certified.

Jared Ball is increasingly a clown in my eyes. Thats why Greg Carr lowkey shyts on him for just being a talking mouth who spins his wheels.
a politician asked an actual radical street soldier what he does other than point out problems...LOL

when asked about why he talks about what is wrong, dhoruba actually made a similar point to a thread you just made yesterday about how the white working class is their own worst enemy. he states that whites who dont reckon with reality will not be useful.

he also counters ellison's "power" argument by stating how the CBC, ANC or any other now mainstream black political organization are preoccupied with re-election and earning a living - a feature of power, not a bug as all systems seek to protect and perpetuate themselves through various means, including negative incentives and intimidation.

he then ended the whole lesson by reminding ellison that all the positive movements in american politics came not from good people within government but from people working outside of it. ellison had nothing at that point...and i like the guy. he is a solid dude but this exchange was the opposite of him ethering anybody.

carr is cool, but ball is growing a platform that exposes more people to radical and alternative thought. for that, he will always have my respect.
 

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a politician asked an actual radical street soldier what he does other than point out problems...LOL

when asked about why he talks about what is wrong, dhoruba actually made a similar point to a thread you just made yesterday about how the white working class is their own worst enemy. he states that whites who dont reckon with reality will not be useful.

he also counters ellison's "power" argument by stating how the CBC, ANC or any other now mainstream black political organization are preoccupied with re-election and earning a living - a feature of power, not a bug as all systems seek to protect and perpetuate themselves through various means, including negative incentives and intimidation.

he then ended the whole lesson by reminding ellison that all the positive movements in american politics came not from good people within government but from people working outside of it. ellison had nothing at that point...and i like the guy. he is a solid dude but this exchange was the opposite of him ethering anybody.

carr is cool, but ball is growing a platform that exposes more people to radical and alternative thought. for that, he will always have my respect.

Ball has no solutions and is frankly a bit of a fraud hisself. it's easy to expose the Earn your leisure guys. everyone does it.

Ball equates a complete revolution and nothing else than that as "revolutionary" politics when it's clear he's a white boy chasing clout instead of actual solutions.

The guy literally hates black people getting money.

I get it. Theres no critique of the system I haven't heard, but while he makes probably around six figures critiquing shyt the guy has no real answers and you'll starve listening to him.

I have an increasingly short temper for these "scholars" whose hey day was the 60s and not a day afterwards and have nothing to show for themselves but contempt of black people actually trying to move up the ladder while keeping their ear to the street.

Don't talk shyt to me about how black politicians let you down when we didn't use to have any. The goal is to get more, advance and progress, and evolve.

We're not going backwards because of some ambiguous capitalistic critique whining about communism or some shyt. Thats dead.
 

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Ball has no solutions and is frankly a bit of a fraud hisself. it's easy to expose the Earn your leisure guys. everyone does it.

Ball equates a complete revolution and nothing else than that as "revolutionary" politics when it's clear he's a white boy chasing clout instead of actual solutions.

The guy literally hates black people getting money.

I get it. Theres no critique of the system I haven't heard, but while he makes probably around six figures critiquing shyt the guy has no real answers and you'll starve listening to him.
wait till you hear what fred hampton said about black people getting money...
 

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wait till you hear what fred hampton said about black people getting money...
Fred Hampton died before he ever had the chance to make any.

This doesn't move me. He was 21. Stop it.

I'm not a communist. Period. I want to make money and I want black people to make money. I'm a social democrat at best. This money shaming ain't helping when all yall do is complain about the lack of bread in the community.

Pick a struggle.
 

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Keith was very optimistic here. Dhrouba was right in his assessment of the overall of the system. Americans do you have an inability to face reality about their country. White Americans will choose race over their economic interests.
 

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Keith was very optimistic here. Dhrouba was right in his assessment of the overall of the system. Americans do you have an inability to face reality about their country. White Americans will choose race over their economic interests.

Dhrouba has no plans much less suggestions. It’s been 10 years.
 
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