Kareem on Dirk: "One trick pony"
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Nice bait thread title breh.
All he's saying is that Dirk would have been a better player, and considered a better player, had he done more in the other parts of his game than just scoring. Don't fully agree, as he was a decent rebounder earlier on in his career, but he's right about the defense and it's kind of an obvious statement that he'd have ended up higher on the all time list if he was a better defender than what he was.
All he's saying is that Dirk would have been a better player, and considered a better player, had he done more in the other parts of his game than just scoring. Don't fully agree, as he was a decent rebounder earlier on in his career, but he's right about the defense and it's kind of an obvious statement that he'd have ended up higher on the all time list if he was a better defender than what he was.
kareem is a bozo. he also said dirk should have went to college. 
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar says Dirk's career wasn't 'dominant' and he's very wrong
kareem is a bozo. he also said dirk should have went to college.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar says Dirk's career wasn't 'dominant' and he's very wrong
What a dumb post.
First of all, Kareem's first four years(when he averaged 14.5, 16, 16.6, and 16.1 rebound per game) aren't even included in his career rebounding statistics: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Secondly, Kareem never had a defensive rebounding percentage lower than 21.5 until he was 34, which was his 13th year in the league. Dirk's numbers have remained consistent as well, but trying to excuse his piss poor offensive rebounding doesn't work. Great offensive rebounders aren't "asked" to crash the glass to get the boards, they're just great at doing it. Even Dirk was great at getting offensive boards he'd probably be "asked" to do it more often.
Thirdly, there is no comparison between Kareem and Dirk as Kareem was the far and away better player.
ALonelyDad
Veteran
He is right..let's say Dirk defended and rebounded like KG with his own offensive game, that is a top 5 ever potential player. He isn't downplaying what Dirk did but he is saying if he had an all around game, he could have been in that conversation.
And where did that get KG? Dirk's front office blew it time and time again. Fact is, scoring > everything, especially when you have a guy that can score on his own in crunch time. That is the reason Dirk could be a cornerstone for a contender without major all stars, and KG could not.
People act like Magic or bird didnt have flaws.
All these guys do is nitpick modern players, but bring up anything about the past, and the same ole lines come out "it was a different era"
"they werent asked to do those sorts of things" In the postseason, dirk's rebounding or defense was never why they lost.
kareem's rebounding numbers are drastically inflated by the era he was in. Stop it.What a dumb post.
First of all, Kareem's first four years(when he averaged 14.5, 16, 16.6, and 16.1 rebound per game) aren't even included in his career rebounding statistics: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Secondly, Kareem never had a defensive rebounding percentage lower than 21.5 until he was 34, which was his 13th year in the league. Dirk's numbers have remained consistent as well, but trying to excuse his piss poor offensive rebounding doesn't work. Great offensive rebounders aren't "asked" to crash the glass to get the boards, they're just great at doing it. Even Dirk was great at getting offensive boards he'd probably be "asked" to do it more often.
Thirdly, there is no comparison between Kareem and Dirk as Kareem was the far and away better player.
I hope you not trying to compare Kareem to Dirk?kareem is a bozo. he also said dirk should have went to college.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar says Dirk's career wasn't 'dominant' and he's very wrong
no, just pointing out how antiquated kareem's mind is.
acting like dirk would be better if he went to college
this is pretty much the only thing that needed to be said...
The era he was in? You mean with short players? Like 6'8/6'9" power forwards like we have now?
Or 6'6' forwards like Barkley/Rodman?
Or is height not actually a good indication of rebounding ability, which we've seen in the likes of Bargnani and Lopez?
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
Did not watch the vid, but that can be said for any player. Actually when some of us Coli brehs say that Shaq could've been even better more often than not all hell breaks loose 
H. Selassie
Black Royalty
Dirk would have 2 Rings if not for David Stern & NBA referees
Dirk is a top 20-25 player of all time and im sure dallas fans have him near the top 15. Not everyone can be top 5 or top 10 and thats ok..
Dirk legacy as one of the best to step on the court is cemented..Him being better on defense would people really rank him higher than the players generally accepted as top 10? Probably not.. So saying he coulda been better on defense really isnt gonna change dirks legacy much
Dirk legacy as one of the best to step on the court is cemented..Him being better on defense would people really rank him higher than the players generally accepted as top 10? Probably not.. So saying he coulda been better on defense really isnt gonna change dirks legacy much
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Not true. When LeBron had to face the Mavericks in the finals, people always say Dirk won it as a lone star when in reality, he was allowed to be a one dimensional player while the rest of the team made up for everything else. Hakeem, LeBron, Kobe and others all had to do it on both sides of the court. I have long said that Dirk had that luxury of being one-dimensional and still winningDid not watch the vid, but that can be said for any player. Actually when some of us Coli brehs say that Shaq could've been even better more often than not all hell breaks loose