John Fetterman went to Congress and became a bigger piece of shyt

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

Why are the Coli weirdos pretending like Fetterman didn't switch up? Why are we trying to compare him to Manchin, a man who was openly a piece of shyt from the start, and not Sinema, who also ran as a progressive and only switched up after she got into office?

If progressive ideals are really such a hindrance to Pennsylvania politics that Fetterman had to make the switch, why did he wait until after he was already elected to do so? Why did he even run as a progressive, and how was he able to win as the progressive candidate? Why didn't he just act like an a$$hole from the jump instead of lying to the voters until he got in office, if that was the safer position?

None of the bullshyt from the centrist mouth breathers in this thread makes any sense unless you're trying to rewrite history by presenting Fetterman as someone who was always to the right of the rest of the Dems. Fetterman has now even attacked Biden from the right. How can you defend that, or call that good party politics? Why should we play along with your alternative facts?

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Why are the Coli weirdos pretending like Fetterman didn't switch up? Why are we trying to compare him to Manchin, a man who was openly a piece of shyt from the start, and not Sinema, who also ran as a progressive and only switched up after she got into office?

If progressive ideals are really such a hindrance to Pennsylvania politics that Fetterman had to make the switch, why did he wait until after he was already elected to do so? Why did he even run as a progressive, and how was he able to win as the progressive candidate? Why didn't he just act like an a$$hole from the jump instead of lying to the voters until he got in office, if that was the safer position?

None of the bullshyt from the centrist mouth breathers in this thread makes any sense unless you're trying to rewrite history by presenting Fetterman as someone who was always to the right of the rest of the Dems. Fetterman has now even attacked Biden from the right. How can you defend that, or call that good party politics? Why should we play along with your alternative facts?

You're missing my point. My point is IDGAF. He is a Dem in a state with a lot of Republican voters and there is not a Republican in that seat. To me that's the W.

Sometimes you just gotta deal with folks who think differently from you and not trip as long as a seat is held. It's either Dr. Fukkin Oz or listen to him have his occasional oddball statement but stay as a Democrat.

Why is this so hard to understand? Stop acting like someone who has a different fukkin opinion here won't vote for fukkin Biden over that Orange Demon cause they think differently.

Folks do what they gotta do and as long as the seat is held by a Dem and he votes on most things with Biden it is what it is.

If we like the same artist, but I don't like some songs that you do, but we still at the concert supporting them and buying tickets, why all thinking I ain't still a fan?!?

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

You're missing my point. My point is IDGAF. He is a Dem in a state with a lot of Republican voters and there is not a Republican in that seat. To me that's the W.

Sometimes you just gotta deal with folks who think differently from you and not trip as long as a seat is held. It's either Dr. Fukkin Oz or listen to him have his occasional oddball statement but stay as a Democrat.

Why is this so hard to understand? Stop acting like someone who has a different fukkin opinion here won't vote for fukkin Biden over that Orange Demon cause they think differently.

Folks do what they gotta do and as long as the seat is held by a Dem and he votes on most things with Biden it is what it is.

If we like the same artist, but I don't like some songs that you do, but we still at the concert supporting them and buying tickets, why all thinking I ain't still a fan?!?

So your issue is that a Dem is being criticized? Are you 12 years old? If all you care about is party affiliation, why are you even taking part in a discussion centered on a politician's change on policy? What's keeping you from just taking your pom poms and sitting in the corner while the adults in the room talk? Why should anyone here give a fukk whether you give a fukk or not?

Seriously though, if all you care about is having a Dem in office and nothing else, go buy a fukking t shirt and leave the political discussions to those who care beyond the surface level.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

So your issue is that a Dem is being criticized? Are you 12 years old? If all you care about is party affiliation, why are you even taking part in a discussion centered on a politician's change on policy? What's keeping you from just taking your pom poms and sitting in the corner while the adults in the room talk? Why should anyone here give a fukk whether you give a fukk or not?

Seriously though, if all you care about is having a Dem in office and nothing else, go buy a fukking t shirt and leave the political discussions to those who care beyond the surface level.

The orange demon tried to kill his own VP and members of Congress, sat on the sidelines while a pandemic killed thousands of Americans and is the worst human being alive by a country mile. He still got the 2nd most votes in US history in 2020.

And he's got a bunch of Mini Me's waiting in the wings to pickup where he left off. He has folks on the SC, local mayors and towns, policie, military, secret service, governors and Congress bootlicking his every move and ready to follow his marching orders.

Defeating this bullshyt takes a full lift but you'd rather nitpick folks who have differences but are on your team.

I have volunteered for the ACA, have regularly donated to the DNC and still do and vote Dem in my local elections. Jeffries team just sent me a fundraising letter this week.

Keep thinking I'm your enemy or ain't involved or know WTF I'm talking about cause I chew a different stick of gum from time to time. That condensing attitude is what got Hilary KO'd

Jesus y'all are fukkin ridiculous

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

The orange demon tried to kill his own VP and members of Congress, sat on the sidelines while a pandemic killed thousands of Americans and is the worst human being alive by a country mile. He still got the 2nd most votes in US history in 2020.

And he's got a bunch of Mini Me's waiting in the wings to pickup where he left off. Defeating this bullshyt takes a full lift but you'd rather nitpick folks who have differences but are on your team.

I have volunteered for the ACA, have regularly donated to the DNC and still do and vote Dem in my local elections. Jeffries team just sent me a fundraising letter this week.

What does Trump have to do with the topic of this thread, which is Fetterman's shift in policy, and heel turn on progressives who he had used to get elected? How does criticism of Fetterman, who again recently attacked Biden from the right, on an internet forum centered on Hip Hop and sports, effect Biden's chances in November?

Fetterman is not even up for reelection until 2028. If you don't give a shyt about who is elected as long as they are Dem, why do you even care if Fetterman is primaried 4 years from now?

Keep thinking I'm your enemy or ain't involved or know WTF I'm talking about cause I chew a different stick of gum from time to time. That condensing attitude is what got Hilary KO'd

Buddy, that's supposed to be my line to you. Punching left to defend a rightward shift by a Dem pulling a bait and switch is weirdo behavior, and leads to the same type of distrust that saw Hillary fail in 2016.

 

[CrimsonTider]

He blocked multiple environmental regulations, environmental investments, and nominations for EPA officials. Even for the bills that passed eventually, they only passed after Manchin succeeded in getting significant pro-environment legislation removed.

And the alternative is that NOTHING passes

Politics will feature comprises

What y’all want isn’t realistic. There will never ever be a progressive majority of senators, house and president

What is realistic is doing our best through voting to minimize Republican power

Complaining about the Dems in power is ass backwards

You have stop posting in here. You aren’t paying attention.


Follow what’s happening with Alabama football and basketball or the next teen macks on.

He voted for every Biden bill that passed

 

[Hood Critic]

That's my point. So why are y'all upset when folks ain't progressive?!

Fetterman is better than the alternative

Reading comprehension champ. Fetterman cosplayed as a progressive to boost his electability and quickly abandoned the facade after getting in office.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

And the alternative is that NOTHING passes

It's nonsensical to claim that was the only alternative when we watched him repeatedly change his position in real time based on his mood that day and which lobbyists had visited him that morning.

He voted for every Biden bill that passed

Why do you think that's relevant?

It's the bills that DIDN'T pass because he REFUSED to vote for them that matter.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Reading comprehension champ. Fetterman cosplayed as a progressive to boost his electability and quickly abandoned the facade after getting in office.

And oh fukkin well. It is what it is he votes with Biden we don't have Dr Oz and the seat stays as a Dem.

Politicians are hypocrites and they lie to get in office and change their opinion when it suits and conveniences them. Tale as old as time. Long as he doesn't pull an independent one like Sinema or switch parties I'm not tripping

We just have difference of opinion here.

 

[Hood Critic]

And oh fukkin well. It is what it is he votes with Biden we don't have Dr Oz and the seat stays as a Dem.

We just have difference of opinion here.

You keep talking about the alternative in Dr Oz but what difference does it make if the person standing in the party's way has a D or an R by their name if we can't get things done?

I expect this kind of nonsensical argument from @the cac mamba

It's not good enough to be satisfied with a Dem in a seat if they're going to routinely hold the party agenda hostage for their own local gain(Manchin), hair brained agenda(Fetterman), or for the sake of trying to look what they deem to be "fair" to the other side of the isle(Sinema).

 

[mastermind]

And the alternative is that NOTHING passes

Politics will feature comprises

What y’all want isn’t realistic. There will never ever be a progressive majority of senators, house and president

What is realistic is doing our best through voting to minimize Republican power

Complaining about the Dems in power is ass backwards

He voted for every Biden bill that passed

Bro this isn’t SEC football. Him betraying his voters is a bad thing and matters. What is wrong with you.

As for Manchin. Again, an Alabama game may have been in but Manchin and Sinema helped torpedo the original Build Back Better. He talked to a group of billionaires and said he was doing it for them—we have audio of this. You don’t know what you are talking about.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Didn’t Manchin vote for every Biden bill that passed?

What did y’all want Manchin to do that he didn’t do ?

Manchin tanked paid family leave despite several female Dem senators begging him to consider it, and let the child tax credit expire despite it being one of the Democrats' most popular policies.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

You keep talking about the alternative in Dr Oz but what difference does it make if the person standing in the party's way has a D or an R by their name if we can't get things done?

I expect this kind of nonsensical argument from @the cac mamba

It's not good enough to be satisfied with a Dem in a seat if they're going to routinely hold the party agenda hostage for their own local gain(Manchin), hair brained agenda(Fetterman), or for the sake of trying to look what they deem to be "fair" to the other side of the isle(Sinema).

Bernie and crew have had MULTIPLE chances to bring about a progressive majority that's clearly y'all desire and it ain't happened.

So because this is the reality we live with I'm not tripping. And I get your guy's frustration but I'm a half glass full kind of guy.

It's like the Affordable Care Act.

Damn near took the act of god for that bill to pass so I'll just deal with what got done. It moved the ball down the field. Which considering the opposition is even more impressive.

I just have low expectations of politicians man.

 

[wire28]

Obama didn't campaign on universal health care, closing Guantanamo? He had to settle for the middle ground on the ACA due to the reality of politics.

How about this for you being so fukkin dense

I don't have to agree with every position you take as a Democrat to support Democratic causes and candidates. The alternative is the gotdamn devil

Like how hard is that?!!!

Very hard. Sorry gotta slap the emoji on you. It’s over.

As much as I hate to agree with you, you're correct.

This whole " you must be progressive at all costs ' is fukkin dumb.

Take the wins where you can get them. Cause contrary to this board it's a 50/50 country.

The entire country actually would agree with us if we took the time to ease their economic anxiety.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Very hard. Sorry gotta slap the emoji on you. It’s over.


The entire country actually would agree with us if we took the time to ease their economic anxiety.

There is a large percentage of the population that will NEVER EVER EVER vote for a democratic candidate or politician no matter what you/they say or do

Point blank Obamacare and Kentucky





I'm not sure what utopia y'all live in but keep up the wishful thinking

But y'all keep trashing us who have small differences but wanna make sure we get Biden a 2nd term and banish MAGA to hell where they belong.

Take the wins that you can, hope for a majority and be forceful for change.

But understand you won't always get what you want and the alternative is SHYT. Not bad, but the fukkin devil.

It's like starving or eating fast food to live. It's better than death.