Jews Pose 'Security Risk' To Hungary, Nationalist MP Says
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Pretty scary. The rest of the gov. needs to get it together. Lists of Jews in 2012?
mbewane
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I have a hungarian friend who sent me the link to that story the other day, those guys are out of control...situation seems to be very tense over there with the extreme-right...plus what this article doesn't say is that the "criticism" these comments drew from the govt came very late and were quite tame (basically, the same stuff they say every time Jobbik is blatantly racist).
These guys actually expelled one of their own when it was discovered that he had jewish ancestors
These guys actually expelled one of their own when it was discovered that he had jewish ancestors
IrishBrother
Bubblin' in Dublin
"We will never forgive Europe's Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly… not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity."
"And now, Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won't be able to atone for."
He added, however, that Jews must pray that the Islamization of most of Europe will not harm the people of Israel.
"And now, Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won't be able to atone for."
He added, however, that Jews must pray that the Islamization of most of Europe will not harm the people of Israel.
IrishBrother
Bubblin' in Dublin
I have a hungarian friend who sent me the link to that story the other day, those guys are out of control...situation seems to be very tense over there with the extreme-right...plus what this article doesn't say is that the "criticism" these comments drew from the govt came very late and were quite tame (basically, the same stuff they say every time Jobbik is blatantly racist).
These guys actually expelled one of their own when it was discovered that he had jewish ancestors
However, most Jews will never openly state their hatred for Christianity nor their hatred for White Gentiles. It is important to understand that Europe's historical persecution of Jews was largely retaliatory in nature. Through the centuries, Jews would settle in some area of Europe and typically meddle with the local customs and trade practices (in many cases subvert or pervert them). The native Europeans of [fill in the blank] European nation would become justifiably angry and thus retaliate. Jews would then typically be evicted from whichever European nation where they were troublemakers. Jews have been thrown out of more than 150 nations during the past 1,000 years alone
mbewane
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However, most Jews will never openly state their hatred for Christianity nor their hatred for White Gentiles. It is important to understand that Europe's historical persecution of Jews was largely retaliatory in nature. Through the centuries, Jews would settle in some area of Europe and typically meddle with the local customs and trade practices (in many cases subvert or pervert them). The native Europeans of [fill in the blank] European nation would become justifiably angry and thus retaliate. Jews would then typically be evicted from whichever European nation where they were troublemakers. Jews have been thrown out of more than 150 nations during the past 1,000 years alone
Breh don't quote me before posting your softcore hate posts and revisionist bs. Thank you.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Is there EU membership status still in jeopardy?
mbewane
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You're talking about Hungary? They're in, and it would take a LOT more than extreme-right parties saying what extreme-right parties say to get them out. No EU Member State has ever been expelled.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
I'll have to think about what happened exactly but the right wanted to throw their constitution in the bushes and stop making payment to the EU on Hungarys debts.
They also closed down opposition news outlets and arrested journalists.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/hungary/index.html
This covers everything actually ^
This covers everything actually ^
mbewane
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Oh yeah the constitution thing got sorted out earlier this year I think, Hungary basically had to back down some in front of EU pressure. It had something to do with freedom of speech and of the press if I remember well.
I don't buy that right-wing rethoric about stopping payment to the EU (as a member state you pay general taxes to the EU as a whole, not to this or that particular body) because that would effectively mean they drop out of the EU. One country can't just say "oh we're not paying this year", the ties between the EU and the member states do not depend on this or that government, but it is the country in itself that is part of the EU: they would have to decide to get out of the EU before being able to stop paying. And remember that they are, as every other MS, getting money from the EU, so the EU could just suspend those payments if shyt gets too hectic (I think they did it with Austria at some point when Haider was in office, but not sure). As long as they're in, contributions are decided collectively during annual negotiations, hell even Great-Britain which is very eurosceptic plays by the rules. And anyway I'm almost 100 % sure Hungary is getting more out of the EU than what it is contributing to it thanks to the structural funds, so as often I think this is just some right-wing electoral posturing devoid of any depth.
However, most Jews will never openly state their hatred for Christianity nor their hatred for White Gentiles. It is important to understand that Europe's historical persecution of Jews was largely retaliatory in nature. Through the centuries, Jews would settle in some area of Europe and typically meddle with the local customs and trade practices (in many cases subvert or pervert them). The native Europeans of [fill in the blank] European nation would become justifiably angry and thus retaliate. Jews would then typically be evicted from whichever European nation where they were troublemakers. Jews have been thrown out of more than 150 nations during the past 1,000 years alone
There are a lot of factors here, but accusing them of 'meddling' as if they were outsiders is not factual. Jews were actually invited by various kingdoms and communities specifically in order to stimulate the economy. In addition, in the medieval and post-medieval period, they were actually relegated to jobs dealing with money for religious reasons. The picture you're painting of an invasive, subversive population has its origins in pure revisionist antisemitic propaganda from the mid-1800s.
As for modern Jews, you're off the mark here, too. I grew up in NYC. Many of my close friends are Jewish. I've dated Jewish girls. I even went to a JCC (Jewish Community Center) for preschool and K, along with other non-Jewish Black, Latino, Asian, and white kids. I have never encountered the kind of mass crypto-racism you describe- it just doesn't exist.