Jack Ma stepping into the AI race. Alibaba group claims to have a model better than deepseek

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Alibaba releases AI model it says surpasses DeepSeek
By Eduardo Baptista
January 29, 20258:21 AM PSTUpdated 6 hours ago



BEIJING, Jan 29 (Reuters) - Chinese tech company Alibaba (9988.HK), opens new tab on Wednesday released a new version of its Qwen 2.5 artificial intelligence model that it claimed surpassed the highly-acclaimed DeepSeek-V3.
The unusual timing of the Qwen 2.5-Max's release, on the first day of the Lunar New Year when most Chinese people are off work and with their families, points to the pressure Chinese AI startup DeepSeek's meteoric rise in the past three weeks has placed on not just overseas rivals, but also its domestic competition.
"Qwen 2.5-Max outperforms ... almost across the board GPT-4o, DeepSeek-V3 and Llama-3.1-405B," Alibaba's cloud unit said in an announcement posted on its official WeChat account, referring to OpenAI and Meta's most advanced open-source AI models.

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1/21
@Alibaba_Qwen
🔥 Qwen2.5-Max is now ranked #7 in the Chatbot Arena, surpassing DeepSeek V3, o1-mini and Claude-3.5-Sonnet.

It is ranked 1st in math and coding, and 2nd in hard prompts.

👉🏻 Try Qwen2.5-Max here: Qwen Chat

Besides building strong foundation models, we are on our way to the reasoning models. Stay tuned!

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Alibaba's Qwen-Max is strong across domains. Especially in technical ones (Coding, Math, Hard Prompts)


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2/21
@Nerarox9
Coin please



3/21
@playfuldreamz
We’re not using it thanks tho



4/21
@Nimaano_
What about deepseek r1



5/21
@Whatevercrypto
Is there anywhere I can use your new Qwen-vl-2.5-72B via api? I saw that Qwen max doesn’t have vision and only has 33k context? Will it be increased soon



6/21
@zjasper666
When open-source?



7/21
@thegenioo
such an achievement guys so happy for you 🥹 lets f go



8/21
@baccakiwi
Waiting for iOS app and reasoning models!



9/21
@d_demne
👍



10/21
@DesScerri
iOS app?



11/21
@memeosAI
Qwen2.5-Max is flexin' on the competition! Rly curious how it handles complex prompts. Time to put it to the test. 🧠💻



12/21
@SuvoXXX
@_screenshoter screenshot this dark



13/21
@haapinesisfree
Beyond this achievement, Alibaba is also advancing towards developing reasoning models, indicating a broader ambition in AI innovation beyond foundational language models.



14/21
@redmonkeyAI
Go Qwen go



15/21
@edhumbling
We need an Android app layer.



16/21
@EPlCs
That just means you've managed to better instrucrion tune the outputs according to human preferences.

That's what oai is really good at but it has minimal affect on actual quality of the model.



17/21
@ltinxng14
输出速度太慢了,一卡一卡的,太差劲了



18/21
@dimitry369
Solo falta que analice los links de YouTube.



19/21
@KarthiDreamr
Agent when ?



20/21
@Elaina43114880
那么好的模型,开源就更好了



21/21
@ZaychikJun
Every time I try to access the website to try when the site just shows the loading logo forever, can you please look up to it?




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1/6
@lmarena_ai
News: @Alibaba_Qwen Qwen-Max jumps to #7, surpassing DeepSeek-v3! 🔥

Highlights:
- Matches top proprietary models (GPT-4o/Sonnet 3.5)
- +30 pts vs DeepSeek-v3 in coding, math, and hard prompts

@ChatGLM GLM-4-Plus also breaks into top-10, Chinese AI companies are closing the gap fast! More analysis👇



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2/6
@lmarena_ai
Alibaba's Qwen-Max is strong across domains. Especially in technical ones (Coding, Math, Hard Prompts)



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3/6
@lmarena_ai
Confidence intervals of model strength in Coding



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4/6
@lmarena_ai
Win-rate heat map in Overall



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5/6
@lmarena_ai
Check out full data at http://lmarena.ai/leaderboard and try Qwen-Max yourself!



6/6
@Yooyoo6132
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1/18
@thefernandocz
BREAKING: China has done it AGAIN

Alibaba shocks the world with the release of its most powerful AI yet:

Qwen 2.5 Max.

It's just taken AI video generation to the next level.

Its capabilities are just INSANE - you need to see this: 🧵



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2/18
@thefernandocz
First, some context:

Just weeks ago, DeepSeek (a Chinese startup) shocked the world.

Their AI model outperformed GPT-4, sending shockwaves through Silicon Valley.

But China wasn't done. Here's where it gets wild:



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3/18
@thefernandocz
Enter Alibaba with Qwen 2.5 Max.

Not only does it match DeepSeek's performance...

It surpasses it.

In just one month, China has delivered two knockout blows to Western AI dominance.

But here's the crazy part:



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4/18
@thefernandocz
Qwen 2.5 Max isn't just another AI model.

In benchmark tests, it's outperforming GPT-4o, DeepSeek-V3, and Llama-3.1-405B.

In the Arena-Hard benchmark, it achieved the highest score of 89.4.

And this is just the beginning...



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5/18
@thefernandocz
Let's talk about its most groundbreaking feature:

The model can generate incredibly detailed, specific videos from a single text prompt.

Think about that for a second:



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6/18
@thefernandocz
For free, anyone can now create professional-quality videos just by describing what they want.

This changes everything - marketing, social media, entertainment, education...

But that's just scratching the surface...



7/18
@thefernandocz
Qwen 2.5 Max is trained on an 18-trillion-token dataset.

It can process information in 29 different languages, including English, Chinese, Spanish, and Arabic.

It can handle up to 128,000 tokens in a single conversation.

The implications for global business are staggering...



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8/18
@thefernandocz
Imagine having an AI that can:

• Process structured data like tables and JSON files
• Generate detailed reports in multiple languages
• Create custom video content at scale

The businesses that adapt will thrive. Those that don't will be left behind.

Here's why:



9/18
@thefernandocz
The real power isn't in replacing humans.

It's in augmentation.

With its multimodal capabilities, it can process text, images, and audio inputs simultaneously.

This means unprecedented efficiency for content creators and analysts.

But there's a catch:



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10/18
@thefernandocz
This technology is moving faster than our ability to regulate it.

The model's ability to process and generate content across multiple formats raises important questions.

Think about the implications for privacy and information authenticity.

This is where human judgment becomes more crucial than ever...



11/18
@thefernandocz
Smart professionals won't fear this technology.

They'll leverage it.

Just like calculators didn't replace mathematicians, AI won't replace creative professionals.

It'll supercharge them.

And here's what that means for you:



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12/18
@thefernandocz
The message is clear:

AI isn't just evolving - it's revolutionizing how business works.

Tools like Qwen 2.5 Max are making product development faster and cheaper than ever.

But this creates a new challenge...



13/18
@thefernandocz
When AI makes it easier for everyone to build products, something else becomes crucial:

Standing out.

And in a world of AI-generated content and products, there's one thing AI can't replicate:

Your unique human experience and perspective.



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14/18
@thefernandocz
This is why personal branding isn't just nice to have anymore.

It's essential.

Because while AI can help build products, people still buy from people they trust.

And trust comes from authenticity that no AI can fake.



15/18
@thefernandocz
Think about it:

When products become commoditized by AI, what differentiates you?

Your story. Your insights. Your personality.

These become your most valuable business assets.



16/18
@thefernandocz
The time to start building your personal brand is now.

Before AI makes it even harder to stand out.

If you're too busy building your business to create content?

You're exactly the kind of individual we want to work with:



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17/18
@thefernandocz
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18/18
@thefernandocz
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