Is this new Pope trying to really shake things up or is it just show?

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He's taken some VERY liberal steps since taking the office, much more so than even John Paul II.

Pope Francis has hit out at unbridled capitalism and the "cult of money", calling for ethical reform of the financial system to create a more humane society.

In an impassioned appeal, the Argentinian pontiff said politicians needed to be bold in tackling the root causes of the economic crisis, which he said lay in an acceptance of money's "power over ourselves and our society".

"We have created new idols," he said in a speech in the Vatican. "The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal."

Attacking unchecked capitalism, the pope said the growing inequality in society was caused by "ideologies which uphold the absolute autonomy of markets and financial speculation, and thus deny the right of control to States, which are themselves charged with providing for the common good".

Francis, who as a priest in Buenos Aires experienced his country's financial crisis, has made the rejection of riches and luxury the hallmark of his two-month pontificate. Days after his election as the Roman Catholic church's first non-European pope, he spoke of his desire for a "poor church".

On Thursday, he said: "A new, invisible and at times virtual, tyranny is established, one which unilaterally and irremediably imposes its own laws and rules."

Ethics, he said, were too often dismissed as a nuisance. "There is a need for financial reform along ethical lines that would produce in its turn an economic reform to benefit everyone," he said. "Money has to serve, not to rule."

Pope Francis attacks 'cult of money' in reform call | World news | The Guardian

Dude was taking major flack for washing the feet of prisoners, some of them who happened to be women:
Pope Francis washes feet of young detainees in ritual

Dude got rid of some of that Liberace shyt:

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More trickery or a sincere effort in progressing? Do you think he will come down on the pedos?

I'm speaking strictly about the Vatican and Pope as a political entity, and not trying to have a discussion about theology.
 

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Im not Catholic, but I do like this...






can't talk about helping the poor or understanding them and their situation, sitting in a damn gold chair and whatnot...gotta be a man of the people..

Thats why I respect my pops. The church he pastors is in the heart of DC and a lot of less fortunate members, he doesn't stunt and he's just like one of them. All the church's money is accounted for and he's never stole a dime...Hell, him and my mom give tithes and offering and THEN help some members anonymously.


Church should be about helping the poor and less fortunate and bringing souls to Christ. Not who has the most expensive suit, car, and house.
 

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I think he legitimately believes in that stuff, same as he believes in the more regressive things that are continuous with his predecessor (on women, abortion, gays, etc.)

It also helps that he's a Jesuit. They're generally a little better about that kind of stuff.
 

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Dude got rid of some of that Liberace shyt:

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i had a job at a museum in Buffalo NY back in the day...this Bishop walks in with an entourage wearing dookie gold rings and necklaces, rubies, emeralds, diamonds, a mother fukking golden staff, 4 foot tall hat, cape....

i was like :fukall:

first thing i thought was "that's disgusting, he is wearing enough jewelry and gold to buy a family a really nice house, car and send the kids to college."
 

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Jesuits are dedicated to povery. Maybe this is a good thing for them.
 

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imo the catholic church of today and centuries past are no different from the synagogues jesus spoke against in his "time".....
 

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imo the catholic church of today and centuries past are no different from the synagogues jesus spoke against in his "time".....

shyt, you don't have to convince me. I'm merely asking about the Pope's recent behavior, it's vastly different than his 2 predecessors. I don't believe anything the Catholic Church does.



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It's liberal to care for the poor and fight against greed???

I was using liberal in the classical sense. The way the words and labels of conservative and liberal today are a by product of political media. Back in the day you could be a Liberal Republican or conservative Democrat.

Anyway, it is liberal when you compare his behavior to his recent predecessors. It goes again traditional church tradition and thinking, especially when he cleaned and washed the feet of the female prisoners. You had people who were very upset.
 

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I was using liberal in the classical sense. The way the words and labels of conservative and liberal today are a by product of political media. Back in the day you could be a Liberal Republican or conservative Democrat.

Anyway, it is liberal when you compare his behavior to his recent predecessors. It goes again traditional church tradition and thinking, especially when he cleaned and washed the feet of the female prisoners. You had people who were very upset.

yeah, true. But it doesn't go against tradition people like..... Jesus.
 
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