Is no one else disturbed by that "It's not supposed to be good" line?

[concise]

I've been watching less and less lately but ocassionally peeking in here and there waiting for some extended run of something watchable and this line came and just totally wrecked my brain, man. It almost completely encompasses what I've been watching for the past few years. An up and down product often does just enough to give you hope that someday they'll put it all together. Complaints are met with the classic line "Well, you keep complaining, yet still watched/paid/supported the product "

Everything goes on as normal? I don't know. Is this what it's like to watch wrestling these days? It feels less like I'm watching something that's supposed to be entertaining and more like some big psychological experiment in manipulation.
Is this a breakdown?

 

[DANJ!]

Nah... cause I kinda get what he was saying about that particular match.

It wasn't meant to be a workrate classic... with 60-year-old Piper and 70-year-old Snuka in it, it CLEARLY wasn't supposed to be that. So in that sense, it wasn't "supposed to be good"- it was more like a match where Jericho was supposed to easily outclass the old guys and go over, then get into a confrontation with Rourke. I don't think that's Vince's attitude toward the product as a whole- if it had been Jericho vs Michaels or Jericho vs Mysterio or somethin', he probably would've expected and wanted it to be "good". But a match like that? Naaah.

That being said, Jericho was right... Steamboat was a better choice than Valentine, and it created a nice moment for that show and a surprise for the crowd who probably didn't know Steamboat was still that good. I went to my friend's house to watch it, and this one dude's kids were amazed that the old man they'd never heard of was holding his own. That worked way better than Valentine would have, cause the nostalgia value isn't there with him like it is with Piper, Steamboat, and Snuka.

 

[concise]

Nah... cause I kinda get what he was saying about that particular match.

It wasn't meant to be a workrate classic... with 60-year-old Piper and 70-year-old Snuka in it, it CLEARLY wasn't supposed to be that. So in that sense, it wasn't "supposed to be good"- it was more like a match where Jericho was supposed to easily outclass the old guys and go over, then get into a confrontation with Rourke. I don't think that's Vince's attitude toward the product as a whole- if it had been Jericho vs Michaels or Jericho vs Mysterio or somethin', he probably would've expected and wanted it to be "good". But a match like that? Naaah.

That being said, Jericho was right... Steamboat was a better choice than Valentine, and it created a nice moment for that show and a surprise for the crowd who probably didn't know Steamboat was still that good. I went to my friend's house to watch it, and this one dude's kids were amazed that the old man they'd never heard of was holding his own. That worked way better than Valentine would have, cause the nostalgia value isn't there with him like it is with Piper, Steamboat, and Snuka.

But, still... to say it like that, says to me it's not supposed to be good at all. It can be fun/funny/bit of a farce and still be good.

And I do think most of the product falls under the "not supposed to be good" category, but it may just be me.

 

[Brad Piff]

no because people have taken that phrase and ran with it completely out of context

 

[R=G]

Brad is right but it's funny because you book something at Mania and you want to display to any new type of audience that checks you out that you are intentionally putting out something you label as "not good" or filler? It's beyond reproach and the context is silly as fukk.

 

[krackdagawd]

Yeah within context it makes sense but for all this fukkery we watch on a weekly basis I'm sure he has said that more than a few times. :smugcoke:

 

[StatUS]

If it's "Not Good" then it's not entertaining.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

If you try to take wrestling seriously in 2013 you'll just wind up frustrated and stop watching

The only option is to enjoy it like a bad B-movie.

#EmbraceThefukkery

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

If you try to take wrestling seriously in 2013 you'll just wind up frustrated and stop watching

The only option is to enjoy it like a bad B-movie.

#EmbraceThefukkery

 

[CJ]

If you try to take wrestling seriously in 2013 you'll just wind up frustrated and stop watching

The only option is to enjoy it like a bad B-movie.

#EmbraceThefukkery

This. Started looking at it this way shortly after WM, and I've been able to enjoy it since.

 

[DaylitoJames]

If you try to take wrestling seriously in 2013 you'll just wind up frustrated and stop watching

The only option is to enjoy it like a bad B-movie.

#EmbraceThefukkery

Best explanation on why I still watch.... I miss Bruce Cambell movies, fukk a Evil Dead remake.

 

[Swiggy]

The most impact that phrase has is serving as yet another TSC meme and that's it. It's simply a way of accepting that you can't dwell on a bad show/match/spot at any moment, being that you have to pack up and move on to the next arena after a show. That's why the mentality that "no one will remember" is prevalent, because if you show us one thing, but come at us with something you brainstormed that is way better, they'll bury the previous week's idea.

A lot like HHH taking over for Vince. They probably wrote themselves into a corner and said fukk it, then went in another direction. If that lack of continuity saved us from some abortion-level fukkery, then thank god they scrapped it.

The monster that the E has turned into is slowly coming out of its phase of figuring out the production and marketing machine it wants to be in the next 10 to 15 years, and may now have figured out how to book the product moving forward under this new direction.

It not being so good gave birth to some of the most comical moments of the past few years, so Vince was definitely on to something

 

[Hoss]

If you try to take wrestling seriously in 2013 you'll just wind up frustrated and stop watching

The only option is to enjoy it like a bad B-movie.

#EmbraceThefukkery

Exactly right. Treat those rare genuinely great compelling moments as a bonus, but don't be sitting around expecting them.

 

[CJ]

Vince will only throw us smarks a bone twice a year. Enjoy it when it happens, but don't expect any #continuity the following week

 

[Double J]

Wrestling is dying....