Is it possible to get this shredded without gear?

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No sir. Alot of those super ripped fitness models are on low doses of juice as well. Ive been lifting and working out hard for the last 6 years and this shyt not realistic.
 

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Since a lot of cats on here don't understand how the body works and don't want to use google....uncle Kill will help you out.

You don't get buffer naturally when you get older. In fact you start losing muscle and fat (small percentages) when you hit 35. Just the way of the world/body. Now of course this can be prevented either with HGH or other steroids. Basically, there's only two schools of thought on this; If you have a six pack, you're either on the juice or extremely hungry/dehydrated. Now the latter meaning you're not bulky whatsoever.

If you have a six pack and you're fully jacked passed 30, you're on the juice. Chael Sonnen goes in on this both on his podcast and book. Bas Rutten pretty much backs it up the same logic and science of course. You simply don't get bigger by lifting more in your 40's.
That's bullshyt. Yes your test levels drop as you age. You will lose muscle. But there's always exceptions to the rule. There's plenty of men with very high test levels when younger and build an amazing base, and from there it's just holding on to the mass. Their levels will drop but perhaps from very high to average.

That being said, I do this all the time, dude is prolly on steroids. He could be a genetic freak. But here's the telling signs.

- if I look through your Instagram and see that you don't have an off-season look, more than likely you are taking some combination of either test, hgh, insulin, or tren. He looks to be less that 8-9% bodyfat. Which is really difficult to maintain naturally year round.

- he's got the tren look a little. However I could argue that his vascularity seems a little more natural than if he were an avid user.

It could go both ways, either a genetic freak. Or he's using some form of PED.
 

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That super hard tortoise shell look is due to his low body fat and dehydration and slight bloating due to roids.

Look at the gymnasts, muscular basketball players and football players...their stomachs are cut and have abs...but they ain't walking around with damn tortoise shells...

Here are steroid users, look at their stomachs



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all those guys have taken drugs at some point in their careers. Lebron and Wade have definitely taken something for injury prevention and to stay healthier throughout the 82 game season. Wade's face ballooned during his career, if you see him when he got drafted, his face is very small.

And NFL players are definitely on the juice. Look at one of the guys chest and the other ones delts. They have that 3D look.
 

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With all due respect I'm still not buying it granted I've seen a video of you and I will acknowledge that you do know your shyt.

I'm 35 and added a lot of muscle to my lats within the last year.

Granted I'm not proving you wrong cuz you said 40.

I don't know man I wanna believe and I've seen plenty of jacked old timers in the gym lol.

I mostly feel sorry for people that get into weights after 25. All the best growth they could get is behind
all those guys have taken drugs at some point in their careers. Lebron and Wade have definitely taken something for injury prevention and to stay healthier throughout the 82 game season. Wade's face ballooned during his career, if you see him when he got drafted, his face is very small.

And NFL players are definitely on the juice. Look at one of the guys chest and the other ones delts. They have that 3D look.
What???

I grew up with nikkas in high school the were ripped up like this. They barely knew what creatine was, let alone gear.

Genetics brehs.
 

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What???

I grew up with nikkas in high school the were ripped up like this. They barely knew what creatine was, let alone gear.

Genetics brehs.
ripped like who? Be specific.

You don't gotta look like you take drugs to take them.

Many athletes take drugs, don't believe the hype. To perform better, prevent injury, recover faster, etc
 

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The hodgetwins didnt start working out till they were 35 and look better than 90 of the dudes out here (paws :dame:)
they on something. If you look at how they looked when they first started to when after they started takin shyt they got very big very fast.
 

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Having both size and definition is extremely difficult to obtain barring God like genetics. Im 6'1, and the minute I hit 175 my abs have faded. And I eat super clean.
How old are you?! HOW?! :mjlol:

You should be naturally around 170-175 without lifting.
 
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