Is Anyone Surprised Hip Hop As A Genre Took Off Like It Did?

[bogey_j]

I mean damn, I just watched a documentary that featured an all-female political hip hop group in iran (fukking iran!) that's when you know hip hop really spread all over. there's not a country in the world that doesn't have a hip hop scene somewhere. that's crazy if you think about it, because unlike rock and other genres with no clear starting point, hip hop has a beginning. it started on a few blocks in the south bronx and for better or for worse look at it now. if you were to ask me back then if hip hop would ever be as big as it is, I woulda looked at you like it always seemed like a very insular scene to me..music for the underprivileged and downtrodden but done in a very brash american way. even when it started to get popular the media tried to destroy it. magazines like rolling stone refused to cover hip hop until it got too popular to ignore

its just crazy to me hip hop culture in general (music, dance, graffiti, style of dress) blew up like it did

 

[BlackDiBiase]

I wasnt there for the birth so i cant honestly tell you if it would take off, but when i got open to it around 92 ... man i knew it last forever, now in 2012 i hope it dont and we can get a couple museums and pay tribute to hiphop music before it becomes even more of a novelty act.

Hiphop Art, i dont like graffiti but i like other forms of hiphop illustration. That shyt is going nowhere ... Street Artist always paying homage to hiphop.

Hiphop Clothes, now they want to imitate others like skate borders and prep school boys but .... Wu and NY had everyone rocking baggies and timbs with rugbys, it was so expressive and strong ..... all up until around 2002 when everyone from Jlo to Paris Hilton to Mary Kate and Ashley wear rocking velour suits.

Hiphop Fashion is now been diluted but there is still part of it, really more hipster mixing hiphop with punk with the bohemian look.

Anyway, I read Afeni tell 'The Source' ... she once got a letter from a mixed race russian boy who used to get bullied and hated life till he started listening to 2pac and then through self-pride and strengh and if Pac went through hell and made it so can i .... etc, which was what hiphop is/was about to all the little ones(boy to man).

Now i dont even know what it is, i still listen to old shyt and these new guys i just cant get into they got no story, no style, nothing to offer me. When an MC is rapping to a crowd and half the crowd could spit better than him, there is a problem.

I blame 2003 and there ever since, you can look around the board and see everyone getting hype over these average rappers and the top artist Kanye/Drake/Jay/Wayne wanting to distant themselves further and further from hiphop.

I think shyt is garbage now, but there is always some good shyt here and there but thats for all forms of music. I bet someone still making good disco somewhere.

 

[bogey_j]

smh, yall would rather argue about some tabloid bullshyt rather than real hip hop. the state of hip hop 'fans' is depressing

fukkin queens

 

[boskey]

it always seemed like a very insular scene to me..music for the underprivileged and downtrodden but done in a very brash american way.

its just crazy to me hip hop culture in general (music, dance, graffiti, style of dress) blew up like it did

When you look at this point its both wildly impressive and wildly disappointing. Its crazy that a movement started by poor kids in the hood could spread across the globe pre-internet. Being able to connect with ALL poor people across the globe, Native Americans, Africans, Eastern Europe, Palestians...thats a ridiculous amount of power.

But then when you see the reality that this "power" is mostly used to export a lot of African American's bad habits to other poor people who can barely understand it but imitate it anyways. Thats kinda disappointing...

Good thread.

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

powerful thread, i think about this shyt all the time when I'm on last.fm and i see so many people from so many countries being hip hop heads.


then there are other times i agree with black dibiase and just hope this shyt finds its demise before i have kids when i go back to the older shyt and see mostly everythings been done before and better. i realize the new modern era may be producing more forgettable music when we look back at our hard drives 10 years from now.



then i go ahead and listen to the new 2 chainz and slaughterhouse albums

it's some conflicting ass shyt but i still love it

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Nope, because by the time i started listening to hiphop (late 90's) it was already huge.

 

[bogey_j]

up.

 

[MrPentatonic]

music genres started by nubians always catch on

 

[Canada Goose]

"Remember rapping duke, the har to har I never thought that Hip Hop would take it this far"

 

[bogey_j]

"Remember rapping duke, the har to har I never thought that Hip Hop would take it this far"

real talk. it must be surreal for these dudes who really grew up with it at its inception. it started off as this small scene and now..

 

[bogey_j]

 

[Conscious Pilot]

Nah not really

Everybody wanna be a nikka but Nobody wanna be a nikka

 

[bogey_j]