Irish government urged to add lithium salts to water supply

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Irish government urged to add lithium salts to water supply in suicide battle
Leading psychiatrist identifies aid against rising depression rates
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CATHAL DERVAN,
IrishCentral Staff Writer
Published Friday, December 2, 2011, 7:54 AM
Updated Friday, December 2, 2011, 1:50 PM

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A leading psychiatrist has urged the Irish government to add lithium salts to the public water supply to aid the battle against suicide and depression.

Well known consultant psychiatrist Dr Moosajee Bhamjee made the call at a mental health forum on ‘Depression in Rural Ireland’ in the Clare town of Ennistymon.

The former politician told the meeting, “There is growing scientific evidence that adding trace amounts of the drug lithium to a water supply can lower rates of suicide and depression.

“A recent article in the British Journal of Psychiatry found that the beneficial uses of lithium when it was added to the water supply in parts of Texas.

“I believe the Government should consider a pilot project for a town in Ireland where lithium salts could be added to the water in very small doses and examine the results.

“There is already a strong precedent for governments intervening in the operation of public water supply for health benefits by adding fluoride.”

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Dr Bhamjee added that addiction to lithium would not be an issue according to the Irish Times.

“A community will not get hooked on lithium because the doses would be so small,” he added.

“There are 200,000 people suffering from depression in Ireland and the Government must think of new ways of tackling the problem.”

Fine Gael TD Dan Neville, chairman of the Irish Association of Suicidology, Dan Neville, told delegates that the average annual suicide rate in Ireland in the 1960s was 64-65.

He revealed, “Last year, 483 people died by suicide and if you add the 123 undetermined deaths, the suicide number is over 600.

“This compares to 212 who died by road accidents, which is itself unacceptable.

“Research shows during international recessions, the suicide rate increases by 25 per cent. Ireland has the fourth highest youth suicide rate in Europe.

“Suicide is the most common death for 15 to 24-year-olds and accounts for more than those who die from cancer and road accidents combined.”

The Limerick deputy also stated: “The attitude in mental health service towards those with mental health problems should be recovery and not containment.

“Early intervention, you have 90 per cent cure and late intervention you have difficulties for life.”


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Dr Moosajee Bhamjee made the call at a mental health forum on ‘Depression in Rural Ireland’ in the Clare town of Ennistymon.

This guys a nobody.:sitdown:

Fine Gael TD Dan Neville, chairman of the Irish Association of Suicidology, Dan Neville, told delegates that the average annual suicide rate in Ireland in the 1960s was 64-65.

He revealed, “Last year, 483 people died by suicide and if you add the 123 undetermined deaths, the suicide number is over 600.

“This compares to 212 who died by road accidents, which is itself unacceptable.

“Research shows during international recessions, the suicide rate increases by 25 per cent. Ireland has the fourth highest youth suicide rate in Europe.

“Suicide is the most common death for 15 to 24-year-olds and accounts for more than those who die from cancer and road accidents combined.”

The Limerick deputy also stated: “The attitude in mental health service towards those with mental health problems should be recovery and not containment.

“Early intervention, you have 90 per cent cure and late intervention you have difficulties for life.”

And this part just talks about the suicide rate in Ireland. Nothing at all to do with the first passage.
 

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This guys a nobody.:sitdown:

:wtf: Half of Ireland is rural dude.

This country most definitely has a problem with depression, although I don't know if its a lot higher then the EU norm. So this doesn't sound like a bad idea.
 

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:wtf: Half of Ireland is rural dude.

This country most definitely has a problem with depression, although I don't know if its a lot higher then the EU norm. So this doesn't sound like a bad idea.

Thanks for the info. Still it's one guy making a suggestion no need for the tinfoil hats.

It still wouldn't be good to pour drugs into a places water supply. Not that it hasn't happened already :ninja2:
 

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:wtf: Half of Ireland is rural dude.

This country most definitely has a problem with depression, although I don't know if its a lot higher then the EU norm. So this doesn't sound like a bad idea.

:smugfavre: jeezus christophalistos...... :wtf:..... no breh... its not a good idea........

I'll be back in a minute to show evidence why......:aicmon:
 

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Most of the people I've met from Ireland could use some lithium.


Even the ones who have moved to warmer climates still have a dark temperment.

One I met said it comes from living on an island.
 

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Drugging the masses like sheep going to slaughter. SMH. Is it even ethically possible to give psychotropic drugs to people without their consent?

I remember reading rumors that they were gonna do the same thing in the USA. Fukk outta here. I don't want any of big pharmaceutical's poison in my temple. Unless I'm actively dying :guilty:
 

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Do you guys know about the french town that got drugged with LSD

French bread spiked with LSD in CIA experiment
A 50-year mystery over the 'cursed bread' of Pont-Saint-Esprit, which left residents suffering hallucinations, has been solved after a writer discovered the US had spiked the bread with LSD as part of an experiment.

An American investigative journalist has uncovered evidence suggesting the CIA peppered local food with the hallucinogenic drug LSD
Henry Samuel in Paris 7:00AM GMT 11 Mar 2010
In 1951, a quiet, picturesque village in southern France was suddenly and mysteriously struck down with mass insanity and hallucinations. At least five people died, dozens were interned in asylums and hundreds afflicted.
For decades it was assumed that the local bread had been unwittingly poisoned with a psychedelic mould. Now, however, an American investigative journalist has uncovered evidence suggesting the CIA peppered local food with the hallucinogenic drug LSD as part of a mind control experiment at the height of the Cold War.
The mystery of Le Pain Maudit (Cursed Bread) still haunts the inhabitants of Pont-Saint-Esprit, in the Gard, southeast France.
On August 16, 1951, the inhabitants were suddenly racked with frightful hallucinations of terrifying beasts and fire.
One man tried to drown himself, screaming that his belly was being eaten by snakes. An 11-year-old tried to strangle his grandmother. Another man shouted: "I am a plane", before jumping out of a second-floor window, breaking his legs. He then got up and carried on for 50 yards. Another saw his heart escaping through his feet and begged a doctor to put it back. Many were taken to the local asylum in strait jackets.
Time magazine wrote at the time: "Among the stricken, delirium rose: patients thrashed wildly on their beds, screaming that red flowers were blossoming from their bodies, that their heads had turned to molten lead."
Eventually, it was determined that the best-known local baker had unwittingly contaminated his flour with ergot, a hallucinogenic mould that infects rye grain. Another theory was the bread had been poisoned with organic mercury.
However, H P Albarelli Jr., an investigative journalist, claims the outbreak resulted from a covert experiment directed by the CIA and the US Army's top-secret Special Operations Division (SOD) at Fort Detrick, Maryland.
The scientists who produced both alternative explanations, he writes, worked for the Swiss-based Sandoz Pharmaceutical Company, which was then secretly supplying both the Army and CIA with LSD.
Mr Albarelli came across CIA documents while investigating the suspicious suicide of Frank Olson, a biochemist working for the SOD who fell from a 13th floor window two years after the Cursed Bread incident. One note transcribes a conversation between a CIA agent and a Sandoz official who mentions the "secret of Pont-Saint-Esprit" and explains that it was not "at all" caused by mould but by diethylamide, the D in LSD.
While compiling his book, A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments, Mr Albarelli spoke to former colleagues of Mr Olson, two of whom told him that the Pont-Saint-Esprit incident was part of a mind control experiment run by the CIA and US army.
After the Korean War the Americans launched a vast research programme into the mental manipulation of prisoners and enemy troops.
Scientists at Fort Detrick told him that agents had sprayed LSD into the air and also contaminated "local foot products".
Mr Albarelli said the real "smoking gun" was a White House document sent to members of the Rockefeller Commission formed in 1975 to investigate CIA abuses. It contained the names of a number of French nationals who had been secretly employed by the CIA and made direct reference to the "Pont St. Esprit incident." In its quest to research LSD as an offensive weapon, Mr Albarelli claims, the US army also drugged over 5,700 unwitting American servicemen between 1953 and 1965.
None of his sources would indicate whether the French secret services were aware of the alleged operation. According to US news reports, French intelligence chiefs have demanded the CIA explain itself following the book's revelations. French intelligence officially denies this.
Locals in Pont-Saint-Esprit still want to know why they were hit by such apocalyptic scenes. "At the time people brought up the theory of an experiment aimed at controlling a popular revolt," said Charles Granjoh, 71.
"I almost kicked the bucket," he told the weekly French magazine Les Inrockuptibles. "I'd like to know why."

French bread spiked with LSD in CIA experiment - Telegraph

Another reason why drugs shouldn't be used to treat an entire island.
 
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