im trying to learn how to rap

[pointproven214]

i have a few questions can anybody help , help would be appreciated.

 

[Drip Bayless]

Well what you on now? You mean like you having trouble making wholes songs right now or you just can't rap at all?

 

[pointproven214]

Well what you on now? You mean like you having trouble making wholes songs right now or you just can't rap at all?

i just can't rap at all.

 

[Drip Bayless]

i just can't rap at all.

i guess just take it slow and try to learn by imitation. Also freestyle, a lot. Be freestyling in the shower on the way to work, whenever you got time. It'll come eventually

 

[Real N Quotes]

i have a few questions can anybody help , help would be appreciated.

Listen To Big L for a couple of weeks

 

[Hyperion]

i guess just take it slow and try to learn by imitation. Also freestyle, a lot. Be freestyling in the shower on the way to work, whenever you got time. It'll come eventually

This, and don't be afraid to listen and study how to write rhymes. Nothing wrong with asking for help, those people who are like "If you have to ask for help, you shouldn't rap" are dumb. Everybody starts somewhere, and some need more help getting started than others.

Now, how I started was focusing on rhyming and flow. Flow came to me relatively naturally, and that was due to me always listening to instrumentals and mouthing how to go over it. Flow, in my definition, is a rhythm within a rhythm... that rhythm is dictated by rhyme schemes, intonation and speed. There's multiple ways of attacking a beat, but flow is basically your take on how you should fit your lyrics on it. Like Jay-Z said in an interview, as a rapper, your voice is the instrument. So it's your job that you, the instrument, are synchronized with all other elements of the instrumental. How well you synchronize is up to you, but the more in sync you are, the better it sounds.

For example, if you were to put Drake and Crooked I on the same track, and it were a Timbaland beat, they'll have different flows but the tempo and pacing of the beat is still the same. They're not going to sound the same, because they're two completely different people, and therefore will have two completely different takes on how they want to approach the beat. However, regardless of the different styles they have, they will remain on beat, and that's the key. So to learn how to flow on a beat, this is how I do it.. first off, just YouTube any random instrumental. Now, when the beat starts, listen to the drums. Pay attention to the whole drum pattern loop. Pace yourself and count from 1-4. Now, most rap songs have their drums staying in a consistent fashion without any major change-ups, but in the event that there are... that tempo count technique (1-4) will save you. All you do is calibrate your flow with the beat change, by Tempo Counting, and then flow accordingly!

Now, with Tempo Counting, you know that you can rap from the beginning of the drum loop to the end, right before it repeats. But say you wanted to add flavor to your flow, instead of the standard flow. This is where the "rhythm within a rhythm" concept comes in handy. You're trying to match the drum pattern or synchronize with it. So, within the 1-4 count, you come up with a rhythm that fits in that tempo, while also making sure you're staying on beat. And that rhythm can be done in multiple different ways, but that's up to you to figure out your own ways and techniques. For help on that, I'd suggest studying rappers like Jay-Z, Tech N9ne and Biggie. There's multiple other rappers to choose from, but I feel like by studying those three at first, you'll get the hang of it.

I hope I made some sense, or I was accurate on what I was saying! It's currently 6AM where I am, so I'm about to crash lol.

 

[pointproven214]

This, and don't be afraid to listen and study how to write rhymes. Nothing wrong with asking for help, those people who are like "If you have to ask for help, you shouldn't rap" are dumb. Everybody starts somewhere, and some need more help getting started than others.

Now, how I started was focusing on rhyming and flow. Flow came to me relatively naturally, and that was due to me always listening to instrumentals and mouthing how to go over it. Flow, in my definition, is a rhythm within a rhythm... that rhythm is dictated by rhyme schemes, intonation and speed. There's multiple ways of attacking a beat, but flow is basically your take on how you should fit your lyrics on it. Like Jay-Z said in an interview, as a rapper, your voice is the instrument. So it's your job that you, the instrument, are synchronized with all other elements of the instrumental. How well you synchronize is up to you, but the more in sync you are, the better it sounds.

For example, if you were to put Drake and Crooked I on the same track, and it were a Timbaland beat, they'll have different flows but the tempo and pacing of the beat is still the same. They're not going to sound the same, because they're two completely different people, and therefore will have two completely different takes on how they want to approach the beat. However, regardless of the different styles they have, they will remain on beat, and that's the key. So to learn how to flow on a beat, this is how I do it.. first off, just YouTube any random instrumental. Now, when the beat starts, listen to the drums. Pay attention to the whole drum pattern loop. Pace yourself and count from 1-4. Now, most rap songs have their drums staying in a consistent fashion without any major change-ups, but in the event that there are... that tempo count technique (1-4) will save you. All you do is calibrate your flow with the beat change, by Tempo Counting, and then flow accordingly!

Now, with Tempo Counting, you know that you can rap from the beginning of the drum loop to the end, right before it repeats. But say you wanted to add flavor to your flow, instead of the standard flow. This is where the "rhythm within a rhythm" concept comes in handy. You're trying to match the drum pattern or synchronize with it. So, within the 1-4 count, you come up with a rhythm that fits in that tempo, while also making sure you're staying on beat. And that rhythm can be done in multiple different ways, but that's up to you to figure out your own ways and techniques. For help on that, I'd suggest studying rappers like Jay-Z, Tech N9ne and Biggie. There's multiple other rappers to choose from, but I feel like by studying those three at first, you'll get the hang of it.

I hope I made some sense, or I was accurate on what I was saying! It's currently 6AM where I am, so I'm about to crash lol.

what abut multisyllablic rhymes do they have to match in length.

 

[Hyperion]

what abut multisyllablic rhymes do they have to match in length.

Do you mean in terms of flow, or in terms of writing? In terms of flow, no. It just depends on how you write it and if it fits within the Tempo Count.

In terms of writing.. no, but it sounds better when you Rhyme Match what you're intending on rhyming, but there are times where you can get away with adding a syllable or removing a syllable. It really depends on what the line is and how you say it. For example, if I were to write a cypher verse like...

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Some lines aren't 100% matched up, but it works because of what I'm saying. You follow?

 

[pointproven214]

Do you mean in terms of flow, or in terms of writing? In terms of flow, no. It just depends on how you write it and if it fits within the Tempo Count.

In terms of writing.. no, but it sounds better when you Rhyme Match what you're intending on rhyming, but there are times where you can get away with adding a syllable or removing a syllable. It really depends on what the line is and how you say it. For example, if I were to write a cypher verse like...

"The flow's repugnant, I've known it from the moment I bust it,
So ill I died, got revived and had my soul refunded,
You disagree, we throwing hands like we're rejecting ourselves,
Aggressive as hell, I'm making sure that lesson's upheld,
You try beef with me, and you gon' turn to a vegetable,
But you ain't edible, so it's like you're the worst food, just terrible,
Saw your past medicals and heard you weren't sensible,
So of course you'd be a p*ssy, cause I'm sure you lack testicles."

Some lines aren't 100% matched up, but it works because of what I'm saying. You follow?

im talking about in terms of rhyme match.

 

[Hyperion]

im talking about in terms of rhyme match.

Okay, my bad on that then lol. For rhyme matching, no. It's encouraged you do, since the better you get, the more syllables you can match up. But, when you start out you'll fall into the habit of rhyming for the sake of it. It's good practice, but content is much more important than how slick you're rhyming. Because you can rhyme match up to maybe 10 syllables and not say a damn thing.

Like in the above example, it's relatively easy to write some cypherish shyt like that because you don't necessarily have to stay on topic. But when you're writing to a song with an actual topic or concept, it's much more difficult because you can't go as out of pocket as you would just spitting. If you were writing a song about love and heartbreak, you'd have to come up with words and phrases that say exactly what you're trying to say, and find words that rhyme with that and match up.

Also, when you start writing, your lyrics won't 'feel' right. And it's hard to explain what I mean by it, but you'll know when you get there. When you get to that point, evaluate your writing but don't get discouraged. Just listen to other rappers to kinda get a hint of how they formulate their lyrics and then apply that knowledge to your own writing. Hope that helps!

 

[Oroko Saki]

Gotta get good with them multi's Ronnie

 

[Hyperion]

Gotta get good with them multi's Ronnie

Where is that dude anyway... He was on multiple different forums doing that shyt. Everyone hit him with the every time he posted though.

 

[pointproven214]

Okay, my bad on that then lol. For rhyme matching, no. It's encouraged you do, since the better you get, the more syllables you can match up. But, when you start out you'll fall into the habit of rhyming for the sake of it. It's good practice, but content is much more important than how slick you're rhyming. Because you can rhyme match up to maybe 10 syllables and not say a damn thing.

Like in the above example, it's relatively easy to write some cypherish shyt like that because you don't necessarily have to stay on topic. But when you're writing to a song with an actual topic or concept, it's much more difficult because you can't go as out of pocket as you would just spitting. If you were writing a song about love and heartbreak, you'd have to come up with words and phrases that say exactly what you're trying to say, and find words that rhyme with that and match up.

Also, when you start writing, your lyrics won't 'feel' right. And it's hard to explain what I mean by it, but you'll know when you get there. When you get to that point, evaluate your writing but don't get discouraged. Just listen to other rappers to kinda get a hint of how they formulate their lyrics and then apply that knowledge to your own writing. Hope that helps!

well im just trying to find that balance between making sense and also rhyming not one or the other im trying to learn how to put it all together

and to me syllable count rhyme matching limits your lines from making sense thank you for help.

 

[Oroko Saki]

Where is that dude anyway... He was on multiple different forums doing that shyt. Everyone hit him with the every time he posted though.

You dont have to look too far for him if you know what i mean

 

[Hyperion]

well i just trying to find that balance between making sense and also rhyming not one or the other im trying to learn how to put it all together

and to me syllable count rhyme matching limits your lines from making sense thank you for help.

It definitely does limit your lines from making sense. That's why I would suggest working on trying to find the balance and not worry too much about rhyming so much like I used to. You'll get the hang of it. Once you start, you just keep practicing and you build up your own style.