If you had to draft #1 Overall right now...

#1 Pick

  • Arian Foster

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • LeSean McCoy

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • Ray Rice

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • None of the Above

    Votes: 5 31.3%

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Why would you take a RB over a QB like Rogers/Brady/Brees?

Elite RB's not in a committe are few and far between. Meanwhile you can get a decent value QB much later in a draft then you can get a quality RB. The drop off between tiers for both positions is very different.





Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't begrudge anyone taking Rodgers first overall, but I'd rather have one of the top 3 RB's and grab a Big Ben or Eli Manning later on :yeshrug:





Voted for Rice btw. Not gonna lie I'm a Ravens stan, so they get extra love from me. But I also had him on my team last year when he finished first in overall pts for RB's, and its a keepers league and he's one of mine, along with Megatron :smugfavre:
 

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Depends on your leage scoring too. Mine is heavy on QBs so Id take Rodgers no questions asked.
 

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Elite RB's not in a committe are few and far between. Meanwhile you can get a decent value QB much later in a draft then you can get a quality RB. The drop off between tiers for both positions is very different.





Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't begrudge anyone taking Rodgers first overall, but I'd rather have one of the top 3 RB's and grab a Big Ben or Eli Manning later on :yeshrug:





Voted for Rice btw. Not gonna lie I'm a Ravens stan, so they get extra love from me. But I also had him on my team last year when he finished first in overall pts for RB's, and its a keepers league and he's one of mine, along with Megatron :smugfavre:

Scarcity is the word he's looking for.

There are less than 10 running backs who you know will get the bulk of the carries on their team, barring injuries, and only the top few are elite and worth 30-50 points more than the later half of the 10.

Every other RB after that is a crapshoot. So while Rodgers/Brees/Brady may have scored the most TOTAL points in your league last year, you only got one shot at an Elite runner, where as with QB's, theirs 20 to pick form that are 'fine'.
 

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Scarcity is the word he's looking for.

There are less than 10 running backs who you know will get the bulk of the carries on their team, barring injuries, and only the top few are elite and worth 30-50 points more than the later half of the 10.

Every other RB after that is a crapshoot. So while Rodgers/Brees/Brady may have scored the most TOTAL points in your league last year, you only got one shot at an Elite runner, where as with QB's, theirs 20 to pick form that are 'fine'.

So only pick a RB if you have a top 3 pick? What's the cut off point where it's better to just draft one of the 3 elite QBs?
 

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So only pick a RB if you have a top 3 pick? What's the cut off point where it's better to just draft one of the 3 elite QBs?

It is all about preference for me in any type of draft. I just prefer to pick a RB, especially the top 3 ones over any QB.

Last year is one of the few years where there was a wide disparity among QBs. The top 3 were that much better, but in previous years that disparity wasn't as bad. Last year was an off year for some of the QBs too. Big Ben, Rivers, Matt Ryan, Schaub, Vick, etc. Thats why I hesitate too with a QB so early.

I'd much rather get a workhorse QB and take my chances with Big Ben, Rivers, Ryan, and either Manning later on.
 

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So only pick a RB if you have a top 3 pick? What's the cut off point where it's better to just draft one of the 3 elite QBs?

Well, a few things come into play:

Your scoring settings
The number of teams in your league
How many RB slots you have

If its a 12 team league, non PPR, and you have to start 2 RB's...The top 10 picks should only have 1 QB(Rodgers) and 1 WR (Megatron) between them.

The rest should be RB's and neither of those two non RB players should go in the top 5 in my mind. At pick 11 or 12, the book end guys will probably grab a RB and a QB/WR rather than 2 RB.
 

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Well, a few things come into play:

Your scoring settings
The number of teams in your league
How many RB slots you have

If its a 12 team league, non PPR, and you have to start 2 RB's...The top 10 picks should only have 1 QB(Rodgers) and 1 WR (Megatron) between them.

The rest should be RB's and neither of those two non RB players should go in the top 5 in my mind. At pick 11 or 12, the book end guys will probably grab a RB and a QB/WR rather than 2 RB.

10 teams.

QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R/T, K, DEF, D, DB, LB, IR, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Fractional Points: Yes
Negative Points: Yes
Make League Publicly Viewable: No
Offense League Value Yahoo! Default Value
Completions .50 0
Incomplete Passes -.20 0
Passing Yards 25 yards per point; 10 points at 400 yards
Passing Touchdowns 6 4
Interceptions -1
Sacks -.50 0
Rushing Yards 10 yards per point; 10 points at 200 yards
Rushing Touchdowns 6
Reception Yards 10 yards per point; 10 points at 150 yards
Reception Touchdowns 6
Return Touchdowns 6
2-Point Conversions 2
Fumbles Lost -2
Offensive Fumble Return TD 6
Pick Sixes Thrown -2 0
40+ Yard Passing Touchdowns 1 0
40+ Yard Rushing Touchdowns 2 0
40+ Yard Reception Touchdowns 1 0
 

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10 teams.

SO only 10 team and 2 RB slots means your league only NEEDS to start 20 RB's a week and there are 32 'starting RB's each week in the NFL.

No PPR (Point Per Reception) means that WR and RB's are weighted equally for your flex positions as well.

With your scoring, the top 20 WR's should all get more than 160 points, the top 20 RB's, more than 140.

So only 30 total weekly positions to fill between ALL of the WR and RB's each week means a LOT of talent on the bench and the waiver.

Also, 6 points for a TD thrown and only -1 for a Pick and 1/2 for a sack levels your top 10 QB's, who should all score more than 300 points.

Aaron Rodgers
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Matthew Stafford

Should all crack 400 points, then it will fall into the middle of the pack after that, low to mid 300's.

In your league, you'd probably have a case for taking one of those guys very early.
 

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SO only 10 team and 2 RB slots means your league only NEEDS to start 20 RB's a week and there are 32 'starting RB's each week in the NFL.

No PPR (Point Per Reception) means that WR and RB's are weighted equally for your flex positions as well.

With your scoring, the top 20 WR's should all get more than 160 points, the top 20 RB's, more than 140.

So only 30 total weekly positions to fill between ALL of the WR and RB's each week means a LOT of talent on the bench and the waiver.

Also, 6 points for a TD thrown and only -1 for a Pick and 1/2 for a sack levels your top 10 QB's, who should all score more than 300 points.

Aaron Rodgers
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Matthew Stafford

Should all crack 400 points, then it will fall into the middle of the pack after that, low to mid 300's.

In your league, you'd probably have a case for taking one of those guys very early.

QB it is. :smugfavre:
 
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