"If DILLIAN WHYTE tested POSTITIVE...ANDY RUIZ SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM THE UK & AJ" L. ELLERBEE

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Let's not act like every UK event is tainted now. Thousands of fights happened in the UK in these last few years featuring foreign fighters without any problems, one case =/= no fighter should go to the UK.

He's saying this because his own business and (boxing)political interests.
Why do they still act like Ruiz would be in any kind of control where the rematch takes place? He signed a rematch contract. He can complain as loud as he wants he'll still have to go wherever they tell him to go or they can sue the shyt out of him. Situation is that simple, idk why they trying to make fans believe it's not.
 

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Let's not act like every UK event is tainted now. Thousands of fights happened in the UK in these last few years featuring foreign fighters without any problems, one case =/= no fighter should go to the UK.

He's saying this because his own business and (boxing)political interests.
Why do they still act like Ruiz would be in any kind of control where the rematch takes place? He signed a rematch contract. He can complain as loud as he wants he'll still have to go wherever they tell him to go or they can sue the shyt out of him. Situation is that simple, idk why they trying to make fans believe it's not.

:stopitslime: he is not generalizing UK boxing as a whole

He is simply highlighting the corrupt activities of ONE UK PROMOTER Matchroom Boxing...and the disadvantage of fighting in thier backyard

For christ sakes we just had a boxer die to injuries he suffered in the ring.....

Why not take precautionary measures to make sure your not risking fighters life by putting him in the ring with someone who uses performance enhancing drugs..
 

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i thought they were waiting for the B test results but according to others if you tested positive for A then most likely getting penalised. whye was mandatory to face wilder now i think it could be rivas anyone know ? i know its going october(luiz) january2020(fury) ......... ?
 

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Apparently U.S is ruled out, could be somewhere different like Nigeria or Saudi...
 

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Nigeria would be really cool, would make some history and there's a bit of a story there too. That would be big.
 

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Dillian Whyte ha apparently passed his post fight VADA test too, they may use this as evidence in the UKAD test.
 

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Did he say this when JLeon Love failed a test on his watch. :sas1::mjlol:

The posturing in boxing is getting ridiculous. First of all what the hell does this have to do with AJ? Does he share strength and conditioning trainer with Whyte or something.
 
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Dillian Whyte ha apparently passed his post fight VADA test too, they may use this as evidence in the UKAD test.

It's not going to help him. VADA only tested Whyte and Rivas twice as part of the WBC's CBP. The testing dates for VADA were on the 17th (the Wednesday before the fight) & the 21st (immediately the day after the fight) of July. UKAD was the tester of record for Whyte & Rivas for their entire training camps. The test that Whyte failed is from a sample taken on the 17th of June. UKAD notified Team Whyte of the adverse sample, a month later, on the 17th of July, which was the first time either of them were tested by VADA.

The B sample from UKAD is what will exonerate him, not anything from VADA.
 

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It's not going to help him. VADA only tested Whyte and Rivas twice as part of the WBC's CBP. The testing dates for VADA were on the 17th (the Wednesday before the fight) & the 21st (immediately the day after the fight) of July. UKAD was the tester of record for Whyte & Rivas for their entire training camps. The test that Whyte failed is from a sample taken on the 17th of June. UKAD notified Team Whyte of the adverse sample, a month later, on the 17th of July, which was the first time either of them were tested by VADA.

The B sample from UKAD is what will exonerate him, not anything from VADA.

Depends when the UKAD and VADA tests were taken and the time apart. I heard he got tested by VADA a lot more than 2 times. I think there's a lot more to come out about this when more information is presented, an adverse sample which he then explained and was cleared to fight, therefore that would indicate he hasn't actually failed any test. UKAD could have banned him and have the power to but didn't, so the question is why they cleared him and what evidence was presented that made them clear him. I'm not sure if that's even allowed to come out cause UKAD are supposed to be confidential but they could make a statement if they wanted clearing him. If UKAD come out and say he was rightfully cleared too then both organisations would have and he should be free to do whatever. Hopefully this is resolved soon for clarity.
 
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Depends when the UKAD and VADA tests were taken and the time apart. I heard he got tested by VADA a lot more than 2 times. I think there's a lot more to come out about this when more information is presented, an adverse sample which he then explained and was cleared to fight, therefore that would indicate he hasn't actually failed any test. UKAD could have banned him and have the power to but didn't, so the question is why they cleared him and what evidence was presented that made them clear him. I'm not sure if that's even allowed to come out cause UKAD are supposed to be confidential but they could make a statement if they wanted clearing him. If UKAD come out and say he was rightfully cleared too then both organisations would have and he should be free to do whatever. Hopefully this is resolved soon for clarity.

It's in my post. The adverse sample from UKAD was taken on the 17th of June. The VADA tests were taken on 17th and 21st of July for the WBC's Clean Boxing Program. They're a month apart. Those were the only tests from VADA.
Just to add on Whyte and Rivas were tested 12 or more times.

That's not how drug tests work. He could have a million tests from VADA. It's all about his B sample from UKAD. The UKAD sample means he got caught between tests. The window for catching D-Bol is 72 hours after ingestion. Where are you getting this tested 12 more times from? Source?
 

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It's in my post. The adverse sample from UKAD was taken on the 17th of June. The VADA tests were taken on 17th and 21st of July for the WBC's Clean Boxing Program. They're a month apart. Those were the only tests from VADA.


That's not how drug tests work. He could have a million tests from VADA. It's all about his B sample from UKAD. The UKAD sample means he got caught between tests. The window for catching D-Bol is 72 hours after ingestion. Where are you getting this tested 12 more times from? Source?

No this isn't correct information, He was tested 12 or more times.

And I'm aware of the UKAD Issue, there was an adverse finding but after the evidence presented he was cleared to fight and hasn't received a ban of any sort yet, we're still waiting for more information to come out. If he's done something wrong he will receive a ban, if not they will absolve him too and no issues.
 
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