"I would definitely never ever bury Triple H’s wrestling talent"

[Metta World Movement]

I'm still curious to see Bret's list of 1000 wrestlers that he thinks are all better workers than Triple H.

As far as Jericho goes, I don't even like the dude and I'm always suspicious of his motives, but I think he's right about this even if his opinion just happens to be good for his career prospects. People have every right to question HHH's political character and selfishness, but in my opinion he's held up his end of a lot of great matches.

I wouldn't pretend I think he's the best worker in the world, but to say he's not in the top 1000 is just silly. Bret Hart just doesn't like the guy because of his role in the screwjob. Bret can't completely get past that, and that's where this opinion came from.

Time out.....

I see a few replies that are on some "Old, bitter Bret is still mad at Triple H over the screwjob"......which doesn't make sense to me since Bret has gotten on better terms with HBK (the man directly involved in it) and Vince (the man who authorized it)

Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe he dislikes Big Nose because he might have been an ass to him back in the day like HBK was? And that the Screwjob was just one example of that? Kinda like how Dwayne had problems with HBK? Why does it have to be just the screwjob?

Keep in mind, even back when Bret absolutely shat on HBK as a person during interviews (far worse than he's ever done to Cripple, to my knowledge), he still maintained that HBK was a great wrestler who had great matches

I'm actually surprised Bret still managed to call Cripple a very good wrestler throughout the criticism....

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

R=G thinks Miz is a good worker, charismatic and a good talker. He has no place in a serious wrestling discussion. If he agrees with your argument you've lost by proxy.

 

[Hoss]

Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe he dislikes Big Nose because he might have been an ass to him back in the day like HBK was? And that the Screwjob was just one example of that? Kinda like how Dwayne had problems with HBK? Why does it have to be just the screwjob?

That's probably true, it wasn't just the screwjob. Fair enough. Still, it doesn't change the fact that it's very possible his opinion of Triple H as a worker is affected by his dislike for the guy.

Keep in mind, even back when Bret absolutely shat on HBK as a person during interviews (far worse than he's ever done to Cripple, to my knowledge), he still maintained that HBK was a great wrestler who had great matches

He'd completely lose all credibility if he attacked HBK's in-ring work. There are plenty of things you can criticize about HBK, but his ability in the ring isn't one of them.

 

[Metta World Movement]

He'd completely lose all credibility if he attacked HBK's in-ring work. There are plenty of things you can criticize about HBK, but his ability in the ring isn't one of them.

My point exactly.....Bret, despite whatever amount of hatred he had for HBK, always knew better than to go after the quality of his matches/ring skills

But for Big Nose, however.........

 

[Ohnoits]

Jericho makes some interesting points, but then again Jericho has something to lose and gain here. Bret has/had NOTHING to lose or gain with his comments.


And as I said before, look at HHH's entire catalogue of matches, did he give ANYONE in history their best match ever?


I can't think of a single person that had a match with HHH that didn't have a better match with someone else.

Yup. The thing is Bret is outside of the business now. He doesn't need to wrestle for WWE. His bread is made. He can say what he wants freely, and his comments were his opinion as a wrestler and fellow performer. He was judging the quality of his peer, and considering he's one of the greatest to ever step foot in the ring, he has a right to do that.

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

Jericho always on his game these days

Stays fukking with the IWC.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

i think its undeniable that his hell in a cell match with cactus jack is a classic that elevated his career, idk why nikkas act like he doesnt have good matches

 

[Grifter]

I wonder what HHH thinks of all this while in his corner office, making 500,000 a year to be in control of those he's buried.

 

[Reggie]

HHH may not be a ring technician like Bret but he's had many memorable matches. Unless Bret was talking about technical matches than i don't know why he even thought to say that. HHH has his issues and held down others, but he was one of the best to ever do it. At least top 30 of all time.

 

[The G.O.D II]

I say this with no bullshyt or hate, but there at least 7 HHH matches I can go back and watch. Meanwhile there is only 4 Hart matches (Owen from WM10 and summerslam 94, WM 13, and the owen tribute match from nitro with he who must not be named)

 

[DirtyD]

All these paragraphs.

 

[The G.O.D II]

I also like how the hart also says HHH was never an innovator of any moves when the pedigree was quite original (I don't know anyone who mattered using it before HHH) Meanwhile, Hart basically stole Stings finisher

 

[Bob Loblaw]

i think its undeniable that his hell in a cell match with cactus jack is a classic that elevated his career, idk why nikkas act like he doesnt have good matches

I agree with you, that match along with the tag match where he tore his quad were great. BUt I think part of the reason people look down on that match is because he does, he resents the fact that Mick made him a ME and all he did to try to make himself appear on the level of Austin/Rock.

But all that being said, that HIAC is undeniable as a great one.

 

[Hoss]

My point exactly.....Bret, despite whatever amount of hatred he had for HBK, always knew better than to go after the quality of his matches/ring skills

But for Big Nose, however.........

Sure, Triple H isn't so great that no one could ever question his ringwork. Very few are, though.

If he'd said Triple H wasn't among the elite workers of all time and left it at that, people would have accepted it. Maybe a few people's feelings would have been hurt, but it would have been a perfectly fair statement.

But he actually said Triple H wasn't in the top 1000.

When he says things like that, about a dude who everyone knows was involved in screwing him over, it damages his credibility and adds to the general belief that he's never gonna completely get past the Montreal thing. To my knowledge, no other wrestler, retired or active, has said anything so critical about Triple H's ringwork. If they had, this claim of Bret's might actually hold water.

He's completely entitled to his opinion, and of course it's all subjective, but saying a thousand dudes were better pro wrestlers than Triple H is just wrong and doesn't reflect well on Bret.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Sure, Triple H isn't so great that no one could ever question his ringwork. Very few are, though.

If he'd said Triple H wasn't among the elite workers of all time and left it at that, people would have accepted it. Maybe a few people's feelings would have been hurt, but it would have been a perfectly fair statement.

But he actually said Triple H wasn't in the top 1000.

When he says things like that, about a dude who everyone knows was involved in screwing him over, it damages his credibility and adds to the general belief that he's never gonna completely get past the Montreal thing. To my knowledge, no other wrestler, retired or active, has said anything so critical about Triple H's ringwork. If they had, this claim of Bret's might actually hold water.

He's completely entitled to his opinion, and of course it's all subjective, but saying a thousand dudes were better pro wrestlers than Triple H is just wrong and doesn't reflect well on Bret.

Steiner, Angle, the Outlaws, and a couple others have been very vocal about HHH's inring accomplishments, but those guys two had obvious axes to grind. But that's the thing, you can't say shyt about H without looking bitter. He's done a great job of insulating himself from whatever criticism someone can raise against him. It'd have to be someone he hadn't come into contact with inring but it seems all of those guys love him, partially because of the great job he did insulating himself if you want work. Dude is teflon