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Primarily use FL and an MPC trying to take my skill to the next level. I would say my best skill is the ability to find obscure and ill samples and flip em but I feel like a lot of my shyt becomes incredibly formulaic (9th wonder ish tbh) so looking for tips as far as drums, flippage, percussion etc...

this is pretty much my style brehs help me out:ahh:

https://soundcloud.com/rns-zeu/apr2
 

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I got a maschine. it's all I use with my lpk25. for me I started the same. I think everybody does. everything sounds a little robotic at first. even if the beat is nasty it can sound too simple. I like to fukk with everything. reverb, beat delay. if I come up with a sick melody. i'll switch to a different channel and try to flip something else out of my sample. and keep doing it. I might have 5-6 different melodies. then I come up with ways how I can blend em in with eachother in an organic way.

for me. I come up with my drum loop first before anything. I might use the BPM from the original sample or just do it manually myself and adjust it later. it's usually a very simple loop. kick, snare, hi hat. for me, it's just a guide. something I can use to see how my chops are coming together. i'll make one chop, keep going. make another one. I usually make 3, then I will start my drum loop and play the chops on the pads and see how it sounds. if they blend in nicely with eachother. if one note sounds out of place. I'll just keep it moving and find another one. after every single chop I make I play em on the pads over my drum loop to see if they sound right together. If I find a sick piece that doesn't fit well but I know it can be used elswhere...maybe for a nasty beat switch...I'll put it another group. and I keep doing that. maybe piano keys. small voice samples. guitar riffs. anything that sounds good. i'll try to save em to a different group. that way I can add little things here and there throughout my beat and keep it fresh. I also fukk with the pitch a million times while i'm choppin my shyt. sometimes you can come across a fukkin gem with a simple turn of the pitch knob.


I like to chop my shyt that way because before I would just start choppin all kinds of shyt. I would chop a sample into 70 different pieces. then after i'm done I might use 7 of them chops to make my beat. thats why I like to make my beat as I go along in my choppin. improved my workflow greatly. not exactly a huge pointer...I think a lot of people work like this. but fukk it.


also...sometimes keeping it simple is the best way to go. once you start over thinking shyt, and trying to add all types of shyt over your beat, it takes away from your main melody. it's too fukkin much and just starts to sound like a bunch of noise. if you find yourself spending too much time on one beat move to something else. chop another sample. come back to it later and most likely you'll hear something else you didn't before. that's my 2 cents on the shyt.
 

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makes a lot of sense. good straightfoward advice. i would also 2 things that work for me: take your time and beatbox like a fool.
 

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props for the tips breh. I'm starting to realize I'm a huge sample centric dude. It pretty much dictates how the beat unfolds in my mind. So as you do a drum loop first I first find an ill sample and then go off of that. Only recently have I been a bit happy with my drums.
 

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couple new joans I'm fukking with gimme ya thoughts

[ame="http://soundcloud.com/rns-zeu/who-you-know"]Who you Know by RNS Zeu$ on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds[/ame]

[ame="http://soundcloud.com/rns-zeu/lawless"]Lawless by RNS Zeu$ on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds[/ame]

[ame="http://soundcloud.com/rns-zeu/cipher"]Cipher by RNS Zeu$ on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds[/ame]
 

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One thing I notice is your drums are always 1 bar loops, you gotta expand on that to give it a bit of flavor. Pretty good for everything else.
 

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some pretty nice sampling there.

i didn't hear the original version of that april joint so i dunno how loud that snare was but it's too quiet now :laugh:
 

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[ame="http://soundcloud.com/rns-zeu/i-love-you"]I love you by RNS Zeu$ on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds[/ame]

new real jazzy low key shyt trying to implement more differentation with drum loops and shyt tell me ya thoughts on it brehs. really trying to figure out to finish this one since it has some serious promise as a chill track
 

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[ame=http://soundcloud.com/rns-zeu/pain]Pain by RNS Zeu$ on SoundCloud - Hear the world[/ame]

Starting to try out more hype shyt. I know I need to tweak the mix but as far as a starting point how does it sound?
 
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