Theres been so many versions now some goat and some stink….
failed comedian?
Mobster?
Anarchist?
Mentally ill
failed comedian?
Mobster?
Anarchist?
Mentally ill
How would YOU make the joker if you directed/wrote the script?
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PortCityProphet
Follow me to the truth
A fed up black man.
And he gets treated better with his face paint on than he does in his own skin.
It's layers to it
And he gets treated better with his face paint on than he does in his own skin.
It's layers to it
TreySav
D-Block General
I would make him Damian Wayne but with all the attributes that normally associated with the joker. The transformation should be slow and enough to break Batman psychologically
ROTJ levels
Ya' Cousin Cleon
OG COUCH CORNER HUSTLA
I'd cast John Leguizamo as the joker
After Joker, you're going to have to do a whole lot to impress me
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
I been watching the old batman's and thinking about The Joker as a character. Which iteration was the best? I'll answer them both...
You had Jack.. He was the mobster, but they didn't do a good job establishing just how good/bad of a mobster he was. He fell into the stuff and literally went insane. Jack was carrying it, but there was no explanation to why the mobsters kept following him... Nor why weirdo clown gangsters starting showing up.
Then Heath... Wanted to see the world burn, but was still smart and intelligent in his motives and plans. Tricked up batman multiple times with pure intelligence and even went toe to toe in combat...
Completely insane Joker from Phoenix.. This is exactly what I'd do. This man dresses up in a clown suit and has clown guns and clown crew doing clown capers.. Usually excited while he murders innocents and cops for absolutely no reason but he's fukking a nut. He baits batman to please come fight him, when others run from him. And batman, through all this gadgets and prep time, keeps losing the worst battles, to this scrawny, insane nutcase. Bats can go head up with Superman but can't protect multiple people he loves from The Clown.
That's what I'd do... The Joker would the first horror superhero movie and he'd be off the damn chain
You had Jack.. He was the mobster, but they didn't do a good job establishing just how good/bad of a mobster he was. He fell into the stuff and literally went insane. Jack was carrying it, but there was no explanation to why the mobsters kept following him... Nor why weirdo clown gangsters starting showing up.
Then Heath... Wanted to see the world burn, but was still smart and intelligent in his motives and plans. Tricked up batman multiple times with pure intelligence and even went toe to toe in combat...
Completely insane Joker from Phoenix.. This is exactly what I'd do. This man dresses up in a clown suit and has clown guns and clown crew doing clown capers.. Usually excited while he murders innocents and cops for absolutely no reason but he's fukking a nut. He baits batman to please come fight him, when others run from him. And batman, through all this gadgets and prep time, keeps losing the worst battles, to this scrawny, insane nutcase. Bats can go head up with Superman but can't protect multiple people he loves from The Clown.
That's what I'd do... The Joker would the first horror superhero movie and he'd be off the damn chain
Artificial Intelligence
Not Allen Iverson
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Complexion
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Quiet, shy kid called Jack from a good home with a fascination for comic books is taken to see a play by parents to broaden horizons. On the way out a goon tries to rob them, claps the parents and when he points the gun at the kid the entire movie shifts into a comic book pane, complete with speech/thought boxes as childs psyche fractures and imagines leaping at the robber to save the day.
Thing is the kid can no longer tell whats real and fantasy and actually does that in the flesh and clicks back into life with a gun in hand, sirens wailing, parents dead and the blood of a goon all over them and can't tell whats what. At this point an "imaginary friend" called The Joker pops up and starts offering help and guidance on what to do in order to escape and that "I'll always keep you safe and happy, look at the big smile on my face" until the kid (in comic book mode, which is just an overlay on real life events) becomes The Joker.
Rises quickly in the Gotham underworld due to being entirely unpredictable, seemingly able to bend the laws of physics (as they are the artist and reader of the comic as well as its star IRL) and only ever communicating via notes written in a childs scrawl, which becomes the famous calling card. All of the dialogue we see is in Jacks head talking to The Joker, nobody ever hears the childs voice because
Moment become a lifetime. A lifetime in moments in a nutshell but the true skill of the tale is how both of these halves weave together because the end is when the story really begins as the sequel sees Jack on the run, maturing, rising to power and coming up against a much older, weary, painkiller addicted, barely functional "I'm too old for this ish" Batman who then freaks out at the mirrored inversion of his own trauma being manifest as Joker and becomes steadily more and more unhinged which leads to Batman losing his own grip on sanity and wondering why he can't beat Jack, no matter what he tries.
What happens in the third installment would blow your mind to shreds but I doubt the IP owners would let Batman get quite as dark as I envision but in a nutshell its all about polarity, equal and opposite reactions along with the definition of character, the nature of the psyche and many other bits and pieces I haven't even pondered yet but thats a quick outline as inspired by this thread.
Golly I'm gully...
Thing is the kid can no longer tell whats real and fantasy and actually does that in the flesh and clicks back into life with a gun in hand, sirens wailing, parents dead and the blood of a goon all over them and can't tell whats what. At this point an "imaginary friend" called The Joker pops up and starts offering help and guidance on what to do in order to escape and that "I'll always keep you safe and happy, look at the big smile on my face" until the kid (in comic book mode, which is just an overlay on real life events) becomes The Joker.
Rises quickly in the Gotham underworld due to being entirely unpredictable, seemingly able to bend the laws of physics (as they are the artist and reader of the comic as well as its star IRL) and only ever communicating via notes written in a childs scrawl, which becomes the famous calling card. All of the dialogue we see is in Jacks head talking to The Joker, nobody ever hears the childs voice because
they went into shock at the shooting and all of the movie takes place during them getting transported to hospital, stabilized and eventually waking up a few days later. Thats when we see so many elements of the tale were actually based on things that were going on around them/said by other characters IRL as they were passed out. The Joker imagery was from the clowns on the wallpaper of the childrens ward in the hospital, weaving bits and pieces of whats heard around them into the tale as it progresses so a news story about Batman in the background becomes part of the comic book coping strategy playing out in the childs mind as they're unconscious in the aftermath of the robbery where they did actually kill the robber.
Movie is scaled so that we run through it all till the last 15 minutes in the kids time dilated mind and then we run it backwards from waking up in the hospital to the first scene but this time you see all the things the kid was reading as cues for their own story as the source material. The medic is shining light in their eyes, checking vitals as the child wakes up and they say "Do you know here you are? What day is it? Can you remember your name?" and replies "Joker" in the same broken, adult voice we've already heard as The Joker from the previous sequence and starts cackling manically and offs the medic in real life, as the child who is revealed to be a girl all along whose name is actually Jacqueline Napier on the board above the bed in hospital. Credits roll.
Movie is scaled so that we run through it all till the last 15 minutes in the kids time dilated mind and then we run it backwards from waking up in the hospital to the first scene but this time you see all the things the kid was reading as cues for their own story as the source material. The medic is shining light in their eyes, checking vitals as the child wakes up and they say "Do you know here you are? What day is it? Can you remember your name?" and replies "Joker" in the same broken, adult voice we've already heard as The Joker from the previous sequence and starts cackling manically and offs the medic in real life, as the child who is revealed to be a girl all along whose name is actually Jacqueline Napier on the board above the bed in hospital. Credits roll.
Moment become a lifetime. A lifetime in moments in a nutshell but the true skill of the tale is how both of these halves weave together because the end is when the story really begins as the sequel sees Jack on the run, maturing, rising to power and coming up against a much older, weary, painkiller addicted, barely functional "I'm too old for this ish" Batman who then freaks out at the mirrored inversion of his own trauma being manifest as Joker and becomes steadily more and more unhinged which leads to Batman losing his own grip on sanity and wondering why he can't beat Jack, no matter what he tries.
What happens in the third installment would blow your mind to shreds but I doubt the IP owners would let Batman get quite as dark as I envision but in a nutshell its all about polarity, equal and opposite reactions along with the definition of character, the nature of the psyche and many other bits and pieces I haven't even pondered yet but thats a quick outline as inspired by this thread.
Golly I'm gully...
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darealvelle
Real Talk
A fed up black man.
And he gets treated better with his face paint on than he does in his own skin.
It's layers to it
KevCo
Bond's gun spoke once....
When i saw the early castings and how reeves choose diversity in his casting i had high hopes lakieth stanfield could be brought in as a joker in these films (a role he has said he wanted)A fed up black man.
And he gets treated better with his face paint on than he does in his own skin.
It's layers to it
humminbird
Veteran
Absolutely wasn't an incelwhy
that one wasn't anything special just an Incel
humminbird
Veteran
how so?
over 30 lives with his mom
blames society for everything
can't get over one girl he sees in the street/can't talk to women
has porn in his notebook
kills people because they don't understand him and they make fun of him
only thing he's got that gives one excuse is his laughing condition but even that wears thin
FromStLouis
Superstar
A fed up black man.
And he gets treated better with his face paint on than he does in his own skin.
It's layers to it
Oh I can just imagine the debates and discussion this would stir up in the film room.
