How do we feel about "Chicano Rap"?

[Thoughts]

Chicano or Chicana (also spelled Xicano or Xicana) is a chosen identity of Mexicans who grew up in the United States. The name "Chicano" is not interchangeable with "Mexican-American." Both names are chosen identities within the Mexican community of the United States. However, these terms have a wide range of meanings in various parts of the southwest. The term became widely used during the Chicano Movement, mainly amongst those Mexicans of the United States who wanted to express a new self-identity, an identity based on community values, rather than the assimilationist mentality of Mexican-American.

Although "Chicano" was sometimes used to denote anyone with a Mexican background, it was mainly applicable to the barrio communities of the southwest. The term "Chicano" had negative connotations before the Chicano Movement, and still is viewed negatively by more conservative members of this community, but it is gaining more acceptance as an identity of pride within the Mexican community of the United States.

Chicano rap is a unique style of hip hop music which started with Kid Frost, who saw some mainstream exposure in the early 1990s. While Mellow Man Ace was the first mainstream rapper to use Spanglish, Frost's song "La Raza" paved the way for its use in American hip hop. Chicano rap tends to discuss themes of importance to young urban Chicanos. Some of today's Chicano artists include Psycho Realm, Sick Symphonies, Street Platoon, El Vuh, Baby Bash, Lil Rob, Serio, and Lighter Shade Of Brown as well as A.K.A. Down Kilo with "Definition of an Ese" which denotes a historical account of Chicano popularity in Southern California .

 

[NerdBird]

Coming from a hispanic, there's only a few chicano rappers I would suggest but the majority of them are saying the same shyt. It's oversaturated and as much as I'm proud of my race, it's only so long I can listen to it before I go back to my hip hop ishh ....

 

[Thoughts]

Coming from a hispanic, there's only a few chicano rappers I would suggest but the majority of them are saying the same shyt. It's oversaturated and as much as I'm proud of my race, it's only so long I can listen to it before I go back to my hip hop ishh ....

But the message is conflicting no? Hip-Hop was about voicing oppression and truthfully it was a COLORLESS movement...but "Chicano Movement" was about Mexican superiority in a country that wasn't theirs. It has roots in Mexican racism no?

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

Coming from a hispanic, there's only a few chicano rappers I would suggest but the majority of them are saying the same shyt. It's oversaturated and as much as I'm proud of my race, it's only so long I can listen to it before I go back to my hip hop ishh ....

i grew up on chicano rap but i can definitely agree alot of it is trash and they all want to stick to that chicano label only a few branched out and did it successfully like Scoop DeVille

the only ones i fukked with heavy were

Clicka One
Lighter Shade of Brown
Mr. Lil One (not Lil Uno although the Diagnosis wasnt bad)
Frost and Scoop
Delinquent Habits
Lil Rob/Baby Bash...their older ish before they fell the fukk off
SPM and Dopehouse
N2Deep/Latino Velvet
Darkroom Familia (their old ish, once Sir Dyno left they became trash)
Woodie
Mr. Shadow got some good stuff

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

But the message is conflicting no? Hip-Hop was about voicing oppression and truthfully it was a COLORLESS movement...but "Chicano Movement" was about Mexican superiority in a country that wasn't theirs. It has roots in Mexican racism no?

It wasnt as racist as you would think, there was more fukk this hood or gang cause of all the gang ties to it

 

[NerdBird]

i grew up on chicano rap but i can definitely agree alot of it is trash and they all want to stick to that chicano label only a few branched out and did it successfully like Scoop DeVille

the only ones i fukked with heavy were

Clicka One
Lighter Shade of Brown
Mr. Lil One (not Lil Uno although the Diagnosis wasnt bad)
Frost and Scoop
Delinquent Habits
SPM and Dopehouse/Baby Bash
Darkroom Familia (their old ish, once Sir Dyno left they became trash)
Woodie
Mr. Shadow got some good stuff

I respect that, the only ones I listen to back in the day when I was all into that was

Lil Rob (even though some people don't like him, you can't deny he brought the genre to a bigger audience at some point in his career)
Lil Menace (turned Christian and never looked back)
SPM (i think he's doing life right now over some baby momma shyt, can't remember)
Kid Frost (Pioneer)
Mr. Knightowl (he got a lot of hate, but he was one of the first ones to do it)
Conejo (well respected, used to be a b-boy back in the day)

and some other dudes from a label called Low Profile Records that I used to bump... there was (idk if it's still active) label called Hi Power or some shyt where they had like every rapper from every hood making songs, shyt was ridiculous Lol

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Frost did it the best SPM was more on a southern hip hop tip but dudes on his crew had a lot of Chicano influence.

i grew up on chicano rap but i can definitely agree alot of it is trash and they all want to stick to that chicano label only a few branched out and did it successfully like Scoop DeVille

the only ones i fukked with heavy were

Clicka One
Lighter Shade of Brown
Mr. Lil One (not Lil Uno although the Diagnosis wasnt bad)
Frost and Scoop
Delinquent Habits
Lil Rob/Baby Bash...their older ish before they fell the fukk off
SPM and Dopehouse
N2Deep/Latino Velvet
Darkroom Familia (their old ish, once Sir Dyno left they became trash)
Woodie
Mr. Shadow got some good stuff

spmm dropped a lot of good music tho.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

I respect that, the only ones I listen to back in the day when I was all into that was

Lil Rob (even though some people don't like him, you can't deny he brought the genre to a bigger audience at some point in his career)
Lil Menace (turned Christian and never looked back)
SPM (i think he's doing life right now over some baby momma shyt, can't remember)
Kid Frost (Pioneer)
Mr. Knightowl (he got a lot of hate, but he was one of the first ones to do it)
Conejo (well respected, used to be a b-boy back in the day)

and some other dudes from a label called Low Profile Records that I used to bump... there was (idk if it's still active) label called Hi Power or some shyt where they had like every rapper from every hood making songs, shyt was ridiculous Lol

Lil Rob wasnt as bad as people made it seem just alot of peeps thought he sold out and he was only trying to get paid no different then a major pushing them songs but he made dope music for a while especially when he was linked up with Fingazz

SPM got charged with violating a little girl...Bash said he didnt do and the family claimed it for money but the state riding with it cause his baby momma was under age when she had his daughter

Knightowl had some good stuff especially with Mr. Lil One

Never could get into Menace, Conejo, Hi-Power really, them dudes i cant stand anymore, especially the fraud Capone-E

 

[Thoughts]

It wasnt as racist as you would think, there was more fukk this hood or gang cause of all the gang ties to it

But I thought the gang shyt was enveloped in protection from exploitative and oppressive attitudes of whites ...that was the reason behind the "Zoot Suit Riots", they killed a Mexican man in LA on some racist shyt. A lot of Mexican gangs are rooted in South American ex-military and mercenary.

And it's a well known fact that Mexicans in LA HATE blacks...they truce out for political purposes, but in Mexico or prison, they let you know REAL quick. They just killed Malcolm X's grandson or some shyt last year.

Mexican pride confuses me....they HAVE their own country YET, risk their lives to come here and complain, THEN ship the money back to the motherland. That's not cool considering American rightfully belongs to BLACKS. Yet Mexicans are complaining we don't "deserve" American.

shyt is mad perplexing, like nikkas just running game to who ever is stupid enough to listen.

 

[NerdBird]

But the message is conflicting no? Hip-Hop was about voicing oppression and truthfully it was a COLORLESS movement...but "Chicano Movement" was about Mexican superiority in a country that wasn't theirs. It has roots in Mexican racism no?

Nah don't get it twisted, chicano rap was never a race issue. It's more of a PRIDE thing, of course there are some racists (TRUST ME, I used to be around it heavy but that's a different story) but these lames wouldn't say a damn thing to a black man. Funny thing about chicano rap is that if you ever got exposed as a fake, you would automically be disowned, a lot of these chicano rappers came up acting like someone they were not and got their careers ended due to the fact that real gangsters exposed them. shyt was hilarious, you had some of these rappers at local parks calling each other out, going to their studios and waiting for them, buying a ticket to their show just to confront them, this all translated from the chicano pride. That gangster shyt, but at the same time, this is what made the genre not expand as much. You have a bunch of rappers that are gang affiliated, drug dealers and all that.... and then you have the entertainers, the ones that rapped about a life they seen and/or never lived... basically they brought each other down instead of just making real good music...

 

[Super Cheech]

A majority of them are terrible. A few stand outs sprinkled here and there.

Lighter Shade of Brown
Frost
Delinquent Habits
Tha Mexakinz
SPM (sometimes)
N2Deep
Lonestar Ridaz

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

But I thought the gang shyt was enveloped in protection from exploitative and oppressive attitudes of whites ...that was the reason behind the "Zoot Suit Riots", they killed a Mexican man in LA on some racist shyt. A lot of Mexican gangs are rooted in South American ex-military and mercenary.

And it's a well known fact that Mexicans in LA HATE blacks...they truce out for political purposes, but in Mexico or prison, they let you know REAL quick. They just killed Malcolm X's grandson or some shyt last year.

Mexican pride confuses me....they HAVE their own country YET, risk their lives to come here and complain, THEN ship the money back to the motherland. That's not cool considering American rightfully belongs to BLACKS. Yet Mexicans are complaining we don't "deserve" American.

shyt is mad perplexing, like nikkas just running game to who ever is stupid enough to listen.

That's exactly what gangs back in the day started off of was protecting themselves from oppressive whites. Mexican and Blacks, but now its nothing but a dope game and killing each other over territory and getting other people back if one of there own gets blasted. Its real racial in LA but thats on some gangish thats spilled over into a color war like black people have pride for there own people, mexicans do too but streets and prison gangs are two different animals. prisons is nothing but race's that stick together, streets are different but when you locked up in the pinta, you gone be with people who you might of blasted in the streets but locked up you soldados with each other.

Some Mexicans are stupid with that shyt, like i understand what you mean and where you coming from. like im all for Chicano pride but i'm born and raised in america and if you wanna claim your country then move the fukk back and stfu. they just want to come and claim on false flag ish and do it country wise but will blast people for doing it with gangs. Like im sorry but if your in america better learn the language and not be making us learn your ish...Its all about selfish pride and people wanting more then they can handle honestly

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

A majority of them are terrible.

Very much, a lot of them don't understand music period and be very simple minded with their raps...

 

[NerdBird]

Lil Rob wasnt as bad as people made it seem just alot of peeps thought he sold out and he was only trying to get paid no different then a major pushing them songs but he made dope music for a while especially when he was linked up with Fingazz

SPM got charged with violating a little girl...Bash said he didnt do and the family claimed it for money but the state riding with it cause his baby momma was under age when she had his daughter

Knightowl had some good stuff especially with Mr. Lil One

Never could get into Menace, Conejo, Hi-Power really, them dudes i cant stand anymore, especially the fraud Capone-E

I forgot about Mr. Capone-E LOL I actually did listen to him back in the day but like I stated earlier, once you got exposed, that's it... no more coming back from it, I know he went at it with some dude named Big Lokote, this guy had a whole mixtape/album dissing him.

 

[Thoughts]

Nah don't get it twisted, chicano rap was never a race issue. It's more of a PRIDE thing, of course there are some racists (TRUST ME, I used to be around it heavy but that's a different story) but these lames wouldn't say a damn thing to a black man. Funny thing about chicano rap is that if you ever got exposed as a fake, you would automically be disowned, a lot of these chicano rappers came up acting like someone they were not and got their careers ended due to the fact that real gangsters exposed them. shyt was hilarious, you had some of these rappers at local parks calling each other out, going to their studios and waiting for them, buying a ticket to their show just to confront them, this all translated from the chicano pride. That gangster shyt, but at the same time, this is what made the genre not expand as much. You have a bunch of rappers that are gang affiliated, drug dealers and all that.... and then you have the entertainers, the ones that rapped about a life they seen and/or never lived... basically they brought each other down instead of just making real good music...

I got some p*ssy to Baby Bash though back in the day , and I've fukked a few Mexican girls (not Boriqua), they kept it real with me though about racism. They said it was stupid, and they didn't understand it themselves, but Mexicans come over here with the mentality that BLACKS are competition, we're the enemy.

shyt is sad considering everything they get as immigrants they owe to the Civil Rights movements.