Hindu spiritual leader: rape victim should've pleaded for mercy, called them brothers
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dumb ass guru
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im a civilized man, but i do believe that some societies have a lot of catching up to do, so fancy talk and logic isnt always effective. the rapists should have a tire full of gasoline put around their necks in a public place, and once lit, any sympathetic yogis and gurus in the audience that want to use some magical tantric techniques to save them should be free to try it.
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Asaram Bapu (Hindi: आशाराम बापू, born as Asumal Sirumal on April 17, 1941), also called "Bapu Ji" by some of his followers, is a self-proclaimed spiritual Guru from India.
And read the section on controversies (which is clearly heavily edited by his supporters.) He's been involved in several court cases with serious criminal allegations. Sounds like another one of those mafia-style swindler spiritual teachers.
Someone needs to smack some sense into his dumb ass, and those of his followers, too.
Asaram Bapu (Hindi: आशाराम बापू, born as Asumal Sirumal on April 17, 1941), also called "Bapu Ji" by some of his followers, is a self-proclaimed spiritual Guru from India.
And read the section on controversies (which is clearly heavily edited by his supporters.) He's been involved in several court cases with serious criminal allegations. Sounds like another one of those mafia-style swindler spiritual teachers.
Someone needs to smack some sense into his dumb ass, and those of his followers, too.
im sure it wouldve worked 
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ahimsa at work.
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Its not that deep breh....
Damn...They really on that shyt out there in India huh?
It's said that when Gandhi was shot he held out his hands in the Namaste pose and softly called out 'Hey-Raam' (Ram is a God)...
... And even my man would say that what this so-called leader's preaching is dumb as shyt.
"“Though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defence or for the defence of the defenceless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission. The latter befits neither man nor woman. Under violence, there are many stages and varieties of bravery. Every man must judge this for himself. No other person can or has the right”
"Ahimsa is an attribute of the brave. Cowardice and ahimsa don't go together any more that water and fire."
"He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”
Much like has happened with MLK, our current societies have a grossly inaccurate and simplified view on Gandhi's philosophy of 'non-violence'.
... And even my man would say that what this so-called leader's preaching is dumb as shyt.
"“Though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defence or for the defence of the defenceless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission. The latter befits neither man nor woman. Under violence, there are many stages and varieties of bravery. Every man must judge this for himself. No other person can or has the right”
"Ahimsa is an attribute of the brave. Cowardice and ahimsa don't go together any more that water and fire."
"He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”
Much like has happened with MLK, our current societies have a grossly inaccurate and simplified view on Gandhi's philosophy of 'non-violence'.
Very true. What this man is talking about is not non-violence- Gandhi or Dr. King would never cosign these statements. It's the same old "blame the victim" mentality you find in other heavily patriarchal social/cultural contexts. His argument wasn't that she was violent, which is why she couldn't stop the attack. He's suggesting that in some way, she invited the attack through immoral and "immodest" behavior.
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It's primitive as fukk. You can come out and say it.
And it isn't primitive just because it's in Indian or "brown people are doing it".
We have primitive fukking Congressmen right here in the US who are whiter than the cocaine I sniffed off a hooker's nipple.
The more we try to understand the "religious and cultural views" nonsense, the longer we'll take to move on from this bullshyt.
yeah I realized this with MLK a while ago but I've been understanding this about Gandhi too. Any real reading of the history of indian independence will show that there was a lot more going on than just gandhi leading some movements...
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I agree. Nonviolent resistance works (especially in terms of economic stability), but it only works when there is an underlying threat of total social upheaval and/or violence behind it.
I'm not sure that's the bottom line. I think it has more to do with the material situation. The British were heavily outnumbered in India, for example, so even if they were violent, they simply didn't have the ability to overpower an entire nation of dissenters. MLK in the US did not have the size advantage, but did have the advantage of global visibility which produced shame. So I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure it's specifically the threat of violence in the background as much as just sheer imbalance of power and capacities in the context of the mass of each side.
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I didn't mention just violence though. Social upheaval affects the economic bottom line. If you look at the history of the Civil Rights movement, there was an underlying movement towards understanding the roles of African Americans as an economic group with purchasing power. The boycotts went a long way to contributing towards that. So, imagine instead of a boycott you had total abstinence from purchasing anything but necessities and not showing up to work en masse. That was probably on a lot of rich, white people's minds.