That's what these people don't get.
Kind of what I’m getting at, even voting a niche party in a act of protest would show people they would have to earn your vote, but not voting at all your voice won’t be heard. Hell if the rent is too Sam high party puts in a presidential bid I’ll volunteer and they will have my vote for life.
I think the biggest hurdle we currently have is that we are a two party system and with these two parties you have many different schools of thought. I think the only way that would change is if libertarians and socialists concurrently broke away and started doing their building up for presidential and gubernatorial races
Thiel also has funded Blake Masters and another bullshyt right-wing thought leader richard hanania.. Richard hanania distorts "black" crime statistics among his other propaganda.I'm not on the "they are returning slavery" rhetoric fully, yet. But the idea that this is unimaginable is also being ignorant of where some of these people are at mentally.
I'm not going to do a firehose of information, but I will give you hints on how to go down the rabbit hole. This combination anti-democratic, unrestrained capitalism, and desire for authoritarianism has its basis among this new class of rich elites, such as Silicon Valley venture capitalists. The most prominent at the moment being Peter Theil who helped bankroll Trump to a small degree and who is bankrolling Vivek Ramaswamy. Thiel has an infamous story of where he was confronted by a fellow black student during the height of protests of apartheid in the US for his rumored support of the regime and he pretty much just kept repeating that "Apartheid was a good economic system" and people who know Thiel describe him as being incapable of expressing any sort of empathy for other human beings and inhumanely cold when it comes to more humane ideas like human rights. To him, the role of government is not to care about human rights, just how much it can help facilitate the gain of capital, for people such as him.
He has funded and also found a lot of common ground when it comes to philosophy with a computer scientist by the name of Curtis Yarvin. I've had the (dis)pleasure of reading a lot of his writings and he has a sincere belief that blacks are better enslaved and they simply can't function in modern society if they are given the same rights as other races. He sincerely believes this and preaches it. It's not just hateful rhetoric, to him. It's the logical "natural order". He along with a dude called Nick Land are thought of as originators of "neo-reactionism" and "dark enlightenment" which is a white supremacist philosophy that the current political climate has taken a lot of cues from. Steve Bannon has said himself he enjoys Yarvin work and he is tied to one of the biggest republican money men at the moment. He is most infamously known for stating "some races are better suited for slavery than others" and that slavery is a natural institution.
He is also obsessed with the Scottish white supremacist philosopher from the 19th century, Thomas Carlyle who commonly argued that blacks naturally belong as slaves and quotes him on this point often.
Everything I mentioned can be found sourced here.
Curtis Yarvin
Curtis Guy Yarvin (born 1973), also known by the pen name Mencius Moldbug, is an American political theorist, blogger[1] and software developer.[2] Yarvi...encyclopedia.pub
These are the individuals on the far right who carry a lot of weight, and as you can see they don't view slavery as something that is forever in the dustbin of history. In fact, it's probably a mistake in their mind we ever got rid of it. So, don't know if they "will bring back slavery" but understand there are a lot of these people who don't think slavery was a moral failing. Failing to enslave their perceived inferiors is the failing in their mind.
Exactly. I totally agree. Black(Americans) people should not accept this.But nobody said that, tho. You invented a strawman just so you could kill it.
I'd HAPPILY vote for a democrat who did literally anything for us. Bu they're not.
Understand, the NYC budget is fukkED this year. Regular services that, again, WE PAID FOR are not even being allocated towards the people who put in: tax payers. They must be shared with these interlopers.
Our children will suffer. Our homeless will suffer. Our poor will suffer. I'm supposed to vote for that?
So not voting helps that?But nobody said that, tho. You invented a strawman just so you could kill it.
I'd HAPPILY vote for a democrat who did literally anything for us. Bu they're not.
Understand, the NYC budget is fukkED this year. Regular services that, again, WE PAID FOR are not even being allocated towards the people who put in: tax payers. They must be shared with these interlopers.
Our children will suffer. Our homeless will suffer. Our poor will suffer. I'm supposed to vote for that?
I'm really trying to understand this point of view.This is real^I'm not on the "they are returning slavery" rhetoric fully, yet. But the idea that this is unimaginable is also being ignorant of where some of these people are at mentally.
I'm not going to do a firehose of information, but I will give you hints on how to go down the rabbit hole. This combination anti-democratic, unrestrained capitalism, and desire for authoritarianism has its basis among this new class of rich elites, such as Silicon Valley venture capitalists. The most prominent at the moment being Peter Theil who helped bankroll Trump to a small degree and who is bankrolling Vivek Ramaswamy. Thiel has an infamous story of where he was confronted by a fellow black student during the height of protests of apartheid in the US for his rumored support of the regime and he pretty much just kept repeating that "Apartheid was a good economic system" and people who know Thiel describe him as being incapable of expressing any sort of empathy for other human beings and inhumanely cold when it comes to more humane ideas like human rights. To him, the role of government is not to care about human rights, just how much it can help facilitate the gain of capital, for people such as him.
He has funded and also found a lot of common ground when it comes to philosophy with a computer scientist by the name of Curtis Yarvin. I've had the (dis)pleasure of reading a lot of his writings and he has a sincere belief that blacks are better enslaved and they simply can't function in modern society if they are given the same rights as other races. He sincerely believes this and preaches it. It's not just hateful rhetoric, to him. It's the logical "natural order". He along with a dude called Nick Land are thought of as originators of "neo-reactionism" and "dark enlightenment" which is a white supremacist philosophy that the current political climate has taken a lot of cues from. Steve Bannon has said himself he enjoys Yarvin work and he is tied to one of the biggest republican money men at the moment. He is most infamously known for stating "some races are better suited for slavery than others" and that slavery is a natural institution.
He is also obsessed with the Scottish white supremacist philosopher from the 19th century, Thomas Carlyle who commonly argued that blacks naturally belong as slaves and quotes him on this point often.
Everything I mentioned can be found sourced here.
Curtis Yarvin
Curtis Guy Yarvin (born 1973), also known by the pen name Mencius Moldbug, is an American political theorist, blogger[1] and software developer.[2] Yarvi...
These are the individuals on the far right who carry a lot of weight, and as you can see they don't view slavery as something that is forever in the dustbin of history. In fact, it's probably a mistake in their mind we ever got rid of it. So, don't know if they "will bring back slavery" but understand there are a lot of these people who don't think slavery was a moral failing. Failing to enslave their perceived inferiors is the failing in their mind.
So not voting helps that?
But nobody said that, tho. You invented a strawman just so you could kill it.
I'd HAPPILY vote for a democrat who did literally anything for us. Bu they're not.
Understand, the NYC budget is fukkED this year. Regular services that, again, WE PAID FOR are not even being allocated towards the people who put in: tax payers. They must be shared with these interlopers.
Our children will suffer. Our homeless will suffer. Our poor will suffer. I'm supposed to vote for that?
Honestly you can vote for a third party, we are literally asking if you will use your vote. Like I don’t care who you vote for, are you casting a vote. I literally don’t understand if you guys are voting third party or if you’re voting republican until dems start to listen. Like do you guys USE your vote. Like a clear cut yes or no. I don’t understand because no one can ever get a clear cut answer out of bothside cats.
But nobody said that, tho. You invented a strawman just so you could kill it.
I'd HAPPILY vote for a democrat who did literally anything for us. Bu they're not.
Understand, the NYC budget is fukkED this year. Regular services that, again, WE PAID FOR are not even being allocated towards the people who put in: tax payers. They must be shared with these interlopers.
Our children will suffer. Our homeless will suffer. Our poor will suffer. I'm supposed to vote for that?
I don't know your voting block and never said I had a strategy.. I just wanted to know how not voting at all works for you in your mind.
like, I get not getting something for your vote, but is that better to you then what will happen if Republicans win? This is a legitimate question. Some people believe burn it down
Locally, I thought the idea of ranked voting was really good. It let us know that if we nominated the wrong guy, that it was our fault.
My whole thing is, the Democrats KNOW what we want for our vote. Why are they not providing it? For their major constituency??I don't know your voting block and never said I had a strategy.. I just wanted to know how not voting at all works for you in your mind.
We out here on our own regardless, afaik.
