Has Anyone Sent Money To Those Make A Wish/Help Poor Kids Commercials?

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Does anyone have experience w these? Anyone donated? Any insider info?

I feel like it's a huge scam. Hilary & her slack jawed husband got exposed for using an organization similar like this in Haiti to fund their interests.

I'd love to hear from any coli brehs who've deal with these non profits. Something about them seem shady to me (we already seen they were spreading HIV purposely in Africa).
 

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I've done a lot of international work and have some fairly decent knowledge of some of the orgs. The big online ads with all the starving children in them are controversial. I and a lot of thinking people in the industry feel like they're exploitative.

At What Point Does a Fundraising Ad Go Too Far?



Most of the organizations are well-intentioned, but because of the difficulty in enacting long-term change the right way, a lot of them end up doing more harm than good. Rather than increasing people's skills and abilities, they increase their dependency or lower their self-worth. I also tend not to trust organizations that spend too much of their budget on advertising and marketing.

Before you donate to an organization, I would try to answer the following questions:

#1. Do I know what this organization's actual long-term goals are? Do I agree with them?

#2. Is the work that they're doing helping people move closer to independence, or further into dependency?

#3. Does the organization's advertising increase your respect for the people they are trying to help, or does it make them look pathetic?


I used to donate to several of the big-name groups, but nowadays when I give I pretty much only give to smaller-scale, community-based groups where I either know a connection or have read a lot about them from trustworthy sources and thus can be pretty confident that they're doing things the right way.
 

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Have never sent money but they have always seemed sinister to me, mainly because of all the white faces around these black people. I always wonder if these families consent to being on film or in these commercials like this and, if so, what do they get from it? Are they seriously volunteering having these strangers film their babies like that? Just doesn't seem sincere to me the people who come from the countries responsible for destabilizing these places are now there trying to raise money to help them.

OAN, I've lived some places and see real poverty and seem some kids reminiscent of the ones in Slumdog Millionaire. I have tried to explain to folks here that while we definitely have folks living in subpar conditions, it is not on the level you'll find outside of this country. I guess it takes seeing it to believe. After seeing that, I definitely wonder how sending these donations is supposed to help all the children at large.
 

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my friend worked for those organizations taking pictures... they made her find the worst kids to take pics of :martin:

most of their budgets get ate up in Admin costs.

They fly people to these countries pay for their tickets, medical shots and lodging to go produce these videos so that they can solicit money. They could easily employ locals but they always say "they are not good enough" :martin:

don't donate your money to them. people want opportunities not aid.

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I've done a lot of international work and have some fairly decent knowledge of some of the orgs. The big online ads with all the starving children in them are controversial. I and a lot of thinking people in the industry feel like they're exploitative.

At What Point Does a Fundraising Ad Go Too Far?



Most of the organizations are well-intentioned, but because of the difficulty in enacting long-term change the right way, a lot of them end up doing more harm than good. Rather than increasing people's skills and abilities, they increase their dependency or lower their self-worth. I also tend not to trust organizations that spend too much of their budget on advertising and marketing.

Before you donate to an organization, I would try to answer the following questions:

#1. Do I know what this organization's actual long-term goals are? Do I agree with them?

#2. Is the work that they're doing helping people move closer to independence, or further into dependency?

#3. Does the organization's advertising increase your respect for the people they are trying to help, or does it make them look pathetic?


I used to donate to several of the big-name groups, but nowadays when I give I pretty much only give to smaller-scale, community-based groups where I either know a connection or have read a lot about them from trustworthy sources and thus can be pretty confident that they're doing things the right way.

From your experience, which ones are worth working with?
 

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Hell no. And I heard half them charities take like 80% of the money for themselves.
yep, i would never donate to any charity at this point in time. shyt is like donating to one of those mega preachers :scusthov:

its a shame, because i bet some of the money goes to real causes and people who need it. but i dont trust any of them :yeshrug:
 

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Yup. It was a chart and article that showed exactly how much various large charity groups actually spend on their cause and the precentages overall were pretty small but they chalked that up to the expenses of trying to run and promote the charity. I can't find it anymore but it was pretty good information.
yep, i would never donate to any charity at this point in time. shyt is like donating to one of those mega preachers :scusthov:

its a shame, because i bet some of the money goes to real causes and people who need it. but i dont trust any of them :yeshrug:
 

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Nah. Charity starts in the home

As another poster stated, operational costs and skimming absorbs most of that money anyway.
 

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From your experience, which ones are worth working with?
I knew someone was gonna ask that question and I'm still not sure how I want to answer it. I would rather that people get personally involved with efforts to help, find out who is doing work in the place that they want to make a difference in, spend the time to do their own research, and get involved in people's lives in practical ways that go beyond mere donations. Who is anyone to trust me anyway? I'm just an anonymous guy on the internet.

But if you really want a tip for something, I'll drop just one name.

Partners in Health in Haiti is one of the most highly-regarded NGOs I've ever known of. I have trusted connections in Haiti that speak about it in glowing terms, and it's hard as hell to find anyone critical. They aren't just bringing in health services, their aim is a completely wholistic public health system including addressing poverty, malnutrition, community solidarity, unjust distribution of resources, etc. They train tens of thousands of Haitians to be medical care workers, including hundreds of doctors, and they even work to train up doctors from the poor communities themselves so that they're less likely to leave for Western countries after they get qualified. As they've expanded internationally they've had a major voice in changing public health policy across the world, from national systems to even WHO and UN policy. Their aim at all times is to get more of the world's health resources targeted towards the poor rather than the status quo that always favors the rich.

The founder was a White American medical student/anthropologist who eventually became a famous doctor but I've read deeply into his life story and belief system and he is obviously genuinely concerned for Haiti and the poor and has sacrificed his whole life to that end, in the last 35 years he's remained based in Haiti, his family is Haitian, and his wife Didi heads much of their Haitian and Rwandan programs. Even the critical articles I've found are only critical around the edges, he's one of those guys whose detractors have trouble finding things bad to say about the actual work of Partners in Health. He has shyt on American injustices and imperialism a lot, he's written multiple books just focusing on the ways in which Haiti has been abused by American policy. And he was close personal friends with President Aristide going back to the early 1990s when Aristide was just a priest and hadn't even gotten involved in politics yet.

Though they were founded in Haiti they also have work in Rwanda and a number of other countries. They have a lot of different programs which reflects their wholistic attitude. Also, look at the pictures in those links - no exploitative pictures of children in terrible situations, but respectful and empowering images of people doing good work.

My own work is along somewhat different lines than PIH, and if I were them I wouldn't have made all the same decisions, but I'm can't honestly say that I know my ideas are better. The amount of good that they've done in people's lives is incredible.




yep, i would never donate to any charity at this point in time. shyt is like donating to one of those mega preachers :scusthov:

its a shame, because i bet some of the money goes to real causes and people who need it. but i dont trust any of them :yeshrug:
"I heard some of these people keep some of the money for themselves, so I'm gonna keep ALL the money for myself." :obama:

Breh, that makes you worse than them. :why:
 

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I've done it growing up, moms raised me to give to charities and donating to those with less.
Done had a few of those "adopted" kids as magnets for the fridge thanking us for the donating.

Those commercials are fukked up with the sad music and shyt but when we found out how much money donated is used for operating expenses pretty much.

I donate to St. Jude though, cancer is a muthafukka
 
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