GZA or Lupe...who's the better lyricist?

Better lyricist?


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Grand_Verbalizer

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........................................... drivel......................... yall just say that because you yourself can’t follow what he’s saying................................more bs ..........

Lupe even said on the podcast with Royce that he likes to say a lot without saying too much, or say something extremely potent and poignant with multiple interpretations but say it in the simplest way possible…so even if you didn’t catch it you can still enjoy it just on face value and it sounding good. Lupe is 100% not a “Rhyming big words and not saying shyt” ass rapper, lol, he probably says the most when the rhyming itself is actually simple. “bytch Bad”, for example. Etc…

That's one of the main problems actually, It doesn't sound good, It usually doesn't even look good written down and often flows horribly/awkwardly

I'll give him props for tapping in to a demographic that wants to feel smarter than they are
 
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RA IS A PIONEER
OF COURSE HE HAD MORE IMPACT.
HE HELPED CHANGED THE GAME
WHEN nikkaS WAS RAPPING LIKE TRASH.
THAT DOESNT MEAN HE DIDNT
GET ECLIPSED WHEN A NEW
CROP OF RAPPERS CAME IN.

NONE OF RAS ALBUM ARE GOAT CONTENDERS.

LU DOES HAVE MULTIPLE CLASSIC
ALBUMS.

WHY LU CLASSIC SONGS
GOT WAY MORE PLAYS
THAN RA CLASSIC SONGS?

LMAO

LUPE LITERAL MAKES SONGS
FULL OF QUOTABLES.
:devil:
:evil:

Paid in Full isn’t a GOAT Contender album? If it’s not, then what is?
Lupe’s best album is Food &Liquor, which has some missteps, but is still a 4.5 mic album and I’d people want to call it a classic I’m not mad at it. His other albums are at best in the 3-3.5 range. In fairness to him, I haven’t been able to get through his post T&Y output. I’ve tried, the music just doesn’t grab me.

Name these classic Lupe songs.
And you know the streaming numbers that an artist who’s run was 86-92 is going to look different than one who’s run was 2006-2011.

I mean Rakim’s solo catalog has double the number of monthly listeners as his work with Eric B which makes no sense based on quality of music, but makes all the sense in the world when you think about the level of mainstream penetration before the Chronic as opposed to after it (particularly as you get to the late 90s).

Name classic Lupe bars that everyone knows.
 

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Paid in Full isn’t a GOAT Contender album? If it’s not, then what is?
Lupe’s best album is Food &Liquor, which has some missteps, but is still a 4.5 mic album and I’d people want to call it a classic I’m not mad at it. His other albums are at best in the 3-3.5 range. In fairness to him, I haven’t been able to get through his post T&Y output. I’ve tried, the music just doesn’t grab me.

Name these classic Lupe songs.
And you know the streaming numbers that an artist who’s run was 86-92 is going to look different than one who’s run was 2006-2011.

I mean Rakim’s solo catalog has double the number of monthly listeners as his work with Eric B which makes no sense based on quality of music, but makes all the sense in the world when you think about the level of mainstream penetration before the Chronic as opposed to after it (particularly as you get to the late 90s).

Name classic Lupe bars that everyone knows.

LMAO

IRONICALLY I BUMPED PAID IN FULL
ON MY WAY TO WORK THIS MORNING
OUT OF RESPECT OF THIS THREAD.

YOU INTERNET nikkaS ARE FUNNY.

STRAIGHT OUT OF COMPTON
IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF THAT ALBUM
IN TERMS OF THAT ERA.

IM NOT EVEN GONNA WASTE
MY TIME PUTTING UP AGAINST
THE GOAT ALBUMS OF THE 90S AND 2000S....
THATS LAUGHABLE.

LIKE I SAID RA IS A PIONEER
AND HELPED CHANGED THE GAME
BUT IM NOT GONNA PRETEND HE
WAS SPITTING SOME FIRE IN THE 80S THAT STILL HOLDS UP 2DAY.

HE WAS AHEAD OF HIS COMPETITION
BUT HE PLAYED IN A WEAK ERA.
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LMAO

IRONICALLY I BUMPED PAID IN FULL
ON MY WAY TO WORK THIS MORNING
OUT OF RESPECT OF THIS THREAD.

YOU INTERNET nikkaS ARE FUNNY.

STRAIGHT OUT OF COMPTON
IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF THAT ALBUM
IN TERMS OF THAT ERA.

IM NOT EVEN GONNA WASTE
MY TIME PUTTING UP AGAINST
THE GOAT ALBUMS OF THE 90S AND 2000S....
THATS LAUGHABLE.

LIKE I SAID RA IS A PIONEER
AND HELPED CHANGED THE GAME
BUT IM NOT GONNA PRETEND HE
WAS SPITTING SOME FIRE IN THE 80S THAT STILL HOLDS UP 2DAY.

HE WAS AHEAD OF HIS COMPETITION
BUT HE PLAYED IN A WEAK ERA.
5f:devil:
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Yup, he's Bill Russell. Great for his era, pioneer. Worthy of credit for advancing the game. But drop him in later eras....
 

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Paid in Full isn’t a GOAT Contender album? If it’s not, then what is?
Lupe’s best album is Food &Liquor, which has some missteps, but is still a 4.5 mic album and I’d people want to call it a classic I’m not mad at it. His other albums are at best in the 3-3.5 range. In fairness to him, I haven’t been able to get through his post T&Y output. I’ve tried, the music just doesn’t grab me.

Name these classic Lupe songs.
And you know the streaming numbers that an artist who’s run was 86-92 is going to look different than one who’s run was 2006-2011.

I mean Rakim’s solo catalog has double the number of monthly listeners as his work with Eric B which makes no sense based on quality of music, but makes all the sense in the world when you think about the level of mainstream penetration before the Chronic as opposed to after it (particularly as you get to the late 90s).

Name classic Lupe bars that everyone knows.

Lupe doesn't have anything near a classic album. You and the rest of his nerd stanbase in here can continue to just pull anything out your ass but you know that NOBODY outside of you weirdos consider anything he's ever put out as classic. Paid in Full is a classic album and HIGHLY regarded in the culture and is routinely brought up in conversations of greatest Hip Hop albums ever.

Nobody listens to Lupe.

Lupe has ZERO quotables. Nobody other than you delusional stans can spit a Lupe verse or line to save their life. If a nikka put a gun to the average avid Hip Hop fan's head and told him "spit a Lupe verse or line or I'm shooting!"... :rip: to that nikka.

Lupe is NEVER brought up in any notable GOAT rapper conversations.

You nikkas are placed on suicide watch everytime the better rapper, Kendrick, gets his proper accolades and listed in GOAT conversations. Lupe NEVER gets mentioned in these convos but the rappers y'all trying to shyt on in here...Rakim, Kool G, Prodigy, GZA...always are.

Again...I deal in REALITIES. YOU dealing with some warped reality that you wouldn't even entertain projecting off the internet for fear of being laughed at.

Everything I stated above is truth and nothing you, @NoHalfWay, @Chip Skylark, @Pop123 or any other pro-wack rapper on here says gonna change that. Sorry...just facts.
 
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Yeah…Lupe gets all this praise and love from other amazing MC’s and non-idiotic listeners because his pen is otherworldly, he deserves it…but you nigs discrediting Rakim is going too far now, 😆, you don’t have to do that to prove Lupe’s greatness. Rakim is the Lupe of his times lyrically…Lupe x 2 actually. That’s why this whole “Greatest Ever” shyt is silly, you have to take into account the eras and compare the landscapes and their peers at the time and all that when crafting these things. No one does that.

If Lupe came up listening to and looking up to and then competing against rappers who rapped how they did in the 80s do you think he’d rhyme how he does in the 21st century?? Here is a scarier thought…imagine Rakim coming up as a shorty in this evolved, more advanced landscape of hip hop lyricists in the 21st century …try to rationalize how he’d sound…given how much greater he was than everyone in his time. 😱
 
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Yeah…Lupe gets all this praise and love from other amazing MC’s and non-idiotic listeners because his pen is otherworldly, he deserves it…but you nigs discrediting Rakim is going too far now, 😆, you don’t have to do that to prove Lupe’s greatness. Rakim is the Lupe of his times lyrically…Lupe x 2 actually. That’s why this whole “Greatest Ever” shyt is silly, you have to take into account the eras and compare the landscapes and their peers at the time and all that when crafting these things. No one does that.

If Lupe came up listening to and looking up to and then competing against rappers who rapped how they did in the 80s do you think he’d rhyme how he does in the 21st century?? He’s a scarier thought…imagine Rakim coming up as a shorty in this evolved, more advanced landscape of hip hop lyricists in the 21st century …try to rationalize how he’d sound…given how much greater he was than everyone in his time. 😱

Wack rapper stan babble. I'm here for it.
 

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Yeah…Lupe gets all this praise and love from other amazing MC’s and non-idiotic listeners because his pen is otherworldly, he deserves it…but you nigs discrediting Rakim is going too far now, 😆, you don’t have to do that to prove Lupe’s greatness. Rakim is the Lupe of his times lyrically…Lupe x 2 actually. That’s why this whole “Greatest Ever” shyt is silly, you have to take into account the eras and compare the landscapes and their peers at the time and all that when crafting these things. No one does that.

If Lupe came up listening to and looking up to and then competing against rappers who rapped how they did in the 80s do you think he’d rhyme how he does in the 21st century?? Here is a scarier thought…imagine Rakim coming up as a shorty in this evolved, more advanced landscape of hip hop lyricists in the 21st century …try to rationalize how he’d sound…given how much greater he was than everyone in his time. 😱
Whose discrediting Rakim? All I see is people givin him props for being a pioneer and innovator, calling him Bill Russell.

But are we or are we not looking at lyrics?

Maybe back in 87 "I ain't no joke, I used to let the mic smoke, now I slam when I'm done and make sure it's broke" was the "Mural" of its day. But we can't get mad at progress.

"The word of the day is Birds of Prey, Harley bars, Sturgis" :picard:
 
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