GZA or Lupe...who's the better lyricist?

[The Truest]

That nikka has gotten y’all out of y’all body in many troll threads. Platinum hits consistently

He’s a legend in these Coli streets

Funny thing is y’all know that nikka don’t be believing everything he says, and y’all still get hot

One slight correction. Everything I say is before rap, this is all fact. Where's the love

I’m not finna get in a debate with y’all nikkas on no damn Lupe Fiasco lol it’s pointless mane

It don’t matter how many various styles he uses that I post songs of, or displays of brilliant songwriting he has exhibited through his career it’s gon be the same ol tireless debate.

It don’t matter if I post quotes from this artists saying this bout his lyricism, or that instance where this guy was influenced by him, the debate always devolves into cryptic yadda yadda, he too abstract yadda yadda. Same ol tired arguments

Maybe tomorrow or Friday when a nikka is off I’ll have time for this fukk shyt, I got work to do today

maybe I'll do a special edition Tetsuo & Youth: lyrical masterpiece or fraud

That'll have em steaming when they're forced to see the difference between "Mural" and "fish which is my favorite dish"

 

[The Truest]

Lupe isn't Jordan.
Just about everyone from Lupe's class (Lupe include) didn't survive past-2015.

Lupe is the dude who made the league but found out, he wasn't built for it.
Kendrick Lamar has the career that Lupe would have, if Lupe's pen was that nice.

 

[NoHalfWay]

He's a legend for being an unbelievably trash poster...wtf is you talking about?

Son rep was like -20,000. Says alot that he's cosigning y'all Lupe nerds in here. I don't think y'all nikkas should be proud of that shyt.

All y’all nikkas be having terrible takes to me. Including you

But I appreciate and actually enjoy chopping it up with all y’all, even you when you not tweakin off some shyt

All the Lupe detractors like you, @Insensitive @Piff Perkins i think all y’all are solid af good posters but with some wack takes. I got a fond appreciation for y’all insight at times. Same shyt with IR and his elite troll game. This forum would be boring af otherwise

 

[CHICAGO]

LU IS BETTER THAN RA.

RA WAS ONE OF THE GREATS
FOR LIKE A 5 YR STRETCH.

LU HAS BEEN DROPPING HEAT
FOR THE LAST 20 YRS.

nikkaS DONT GET THE LUXURY
OF FALLING OFF QUICK UNLESS
THEY DIED.

WHY ISNT RA HELD TO THE
SAME STANDARDS AS NAS & JAY
YET YALL PUT HIM ON THE SAME LEVEL?


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[mobbinfms]

LU IS BETTER THAN RA.

RA WAS ONE OF THE GREATS
FOR LIKE A 5 YR STRETCH.

LU HAS BEEN DROPPING HEAT
FOR THE LAST 20 YRS.

nikkaS DONT GET THE LUXURY
OF FALLING OFF QUICK UNLESS
THEY DIED.

WHY ISNT RA HELD TO THE
SAME STANDARDS AS NAS & JAY
YET YALL PUT HIM ON THE SAME LEVEL?


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Ra has a much larger impact. It’s not even close.
Ra was far more influential. It’s not even close.
Ra has a GOAT contender album. Lupe doesn’t.
Ra has multiple classics. Lupe doesn’t.
Ra has way more classic songs.
Ra has way more legendary Quotables.
What’s a Lupe bar everyone knows?

 

[CHICAGO]

Ra has a much larger impact. It’s not even close.
Ra was far more influential. It’s not even close.
Ra has a GOAT contender album. Lupe doesn’t.
Ra has multiple classics. Lupe doesn’t.
Ra has way more classic songs.
Ra has way more legendary Quotables.
What’s a Lupe bar everyone knows?

RA IS A PIONEER
OF COURSE HE HAD MORE IMPACT.
HE HELPED CHANGED THE GAME
WHEN nikkaS WAS RAPPING LIKE TRASH.
THAT DOESNT MEAN HE DIDNT
GET ECLIPSED WHEN A NEW
CROP OF RAPPERS CAME IN.

NONE OF RAS ALBUM ARE GOAT CONTENDERS.

LU DOES HAVE MULTIPLE CLASSIC
ALBUMS.

WHY LU CLASSIC SONGS
GOT WAY MORE PLAYS
THAN RA CLASSIC SONGS?

LMAO

LUPE LITERAL MAKES SONGS
FULL OF QUOTABLES.


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[NoHalfWay]

It’s true that the influx of 90’s spitters surpassed Rakim lyrically, same goes for Big Daddy Kane.

Out of all the pioneers G Rap was the one that was able to evolve and rival their skill level.

Lupe was easily the most talented lyricist to come about in his era of the 2000’s. I don’t even think that can be debated

 

[Iverson_64]

It’s true that the influx of 90’s spitters surpassed Rakim lyrically, same goes for Big Daddy Kane.

Out of all the pioneers G Rap was the one that was able to evolve and rival their skill level.

Lupe was easily the most talented lyricist to come about in his era of the 2000’s. I don’t even think that can be debated

 

[Budda]

If it was "just about lyrics"
Aesop Rock.
Aceyalone.
BusDriver.
El-P.
Saul Williams.
$ilkMoney.
All kinds of dudes in the underground write some mind bending, metaphor laden lyrics that should
and would be getting dropped in this thread, if it was just about "Lyrics".

All of these guys have:
Crazy sonics (El-P ALONE has insane beats)
Album concepts (Saul Williams is conceptually taking a dump on most rappers and he doesn't even "Rap" anymore)
and so on.


They love Lupe fiasco because Lupe Fiasco is tied to these dudes IDENTITIES.
When they look at Lupe, they see the awkward kid who likes Anime and plays street fighter.
They love the "Nerd" aesthetic.
This is why they cannot objectively measure their mans because an attack on Lupe is an attack
on themselves.

We all played streetfighter lol

 

[Cladyclad]

Lupe because he still found ways to make his music interesting

GZA peaked with his debut


imo mc’s don’t get enough credit for holding the audience ears. That’s takes alot of skill when lyrics are your “gimmick”

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

Good Lord

Can GZA make a Mural? Idek why I asked I know your answer

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

Lupe is your favorite rapper's favorite rapper. If you don't believe me, do your research on what your favorites have said about Lupe

 

[Billy Ocean]

RA IS A PIONEER
OF COURSE HE HAD MORE IMPACT.
HE HELPED CHANGED THE GAME
WHEN nikkaS WAS RAPPING LIKE TRASH.
THAT DOESNT MEAN HE DIDNT
GET ECLIPSED WHEN A NEW
CROP OF RAPPERS CAME IN.

NONE OF RAS ALBUM ARE GOAT CONTENDERS.

LU DOES HAVE MULTIPLE CLASSIC
ALBUMS.

WHY LU CLASSIC SONGS
GOT WAY MORE PLAYS
THAN RA CLASSIC SONGS?

LMAO

LUPE LITERAL MAKES SONGS
FULL OF QUOTABLES.


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This whole post is

 

[Billy Ocean]

Can GZA make a Mural? Idek why I asked I know your answer

GZA has made numerous songs better than that bullshyt.

 

[NoHalfWay]

Ra is no slouch, never has been… he’s called the god emcee for a reason. But Nas, AZ, Pun and the new gen dudes were doing this a lot more effortlessly with innovative slang and aura

He couldn’t stand with his children anymore. The students surpassed the master, and it’s ok cuz that’s what’s supposed to happen