Gus Fring vs Marlo vs tony soprano

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If all 3 bosses at the height of their empire went to war, who'd come out on top?
 

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If all 3 bosses at the height of their empire went to war, who'd come out on top?

Fring, easily. None of these guys are on the same level though.

Marlo wasn't even in control of all of Baltimore and Tony Soprano only ran Jersey. Gus Fring's region was the entire southwest.

Tony Soprano kinda makes sense because he also had ties to the mob in NY. Gus Fring would be closer to a Johnny Sack than Tony Soprano though.

Truthfully Marlo shouldn't even be in the discussion. The closest character to Gus on "The Wire" was probably The Greek.

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Fring, easily. None of these guys are on the same level though.

Marlo wasn't even in control of all of Baltimore and Tony Soprano only ran Jersey. Gus Fring's region was the entire southwest.

Tony Soprano kinda makes sense because he also had ties to the mob in NY. Gus Fring would be closer to a Johnny Sack than Tony Soprano though.

Truthfully Marlo shouldn't even be in the discussion. The closest character to Gus on "The Wire" was probably The Greek.

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he wasnt even above avon

he tried to bigger then he was and in the end got jammed
Bell seemed to be far more mature and logical than Avon :ld:


The personality traits of Bell and Gus was so similar, laid back, businessman/drug dealer hybrid. When Bell offered Mcnulty a condo it so reminded me of when Gus used to do charitable stuff for Hank :wow: Gus ego got him killed as well, if he would have had Tyus kill the old cartel dude he wouldn't have gotten blown up :manny:
 

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Bell seemed to be far more mature and logical than Avon :ld:


The personality traits of Bell and Gus was so similar, laid back, businessman/drug dealer hybrid. When Bell offered Mcnulty a condo it so reminded me of when Gus used to do charitable stuff for Hank :wow: Gus ego got him killed as well, if he would have had Tyus kill the old cartel dude he wouldn't have gotten blown up :manny:

problem with bell is that he tried to be something he wasnt, the kingpin. he had interesting ideas and if he would of offed avon himself he could of taken the next step.

frings issue with hector was way to personal, i think fring was gay. when hector killed his boy remember he pissed in the pool and made a comment that he liked what he saw. theres no way he could of had his henchman kill hector, he had to do it but his judgement was clouded because of the history and he forgot about walt which was his biggest mistake
 

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How can you say fring when he was seriously getting his shyt pushed back by the cartel and Mike was really his only true muscle, which btw Walt successfully took both of them out. Fring was intelligent but his muscle was weak.

Marlo only controlled west Baltimore but he had the entire city on notice. His muscle was legit. Plus Chris had them under military training.

Tony soprano muscle was average as well as I recall. His family turned Crack head, others were old

Give me Marlo Chris and snoop
 

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How can you say fring when he was seriously getting his shyt pushed back by the cartel and Mike was really his only true muscle, which btw Walt successfully took both of them out. Fring was intelligent but his muscle was weak.

Marlo only controlled west Baltimore but he had the entire city on notice. His muscle was legit. Plus Chris had them under military training.

Tony soprano muscle was average as well as I recall. His family turned Crack head, others were old

Give me Marlo Chris and snoop

Walt took them both out because he was the main character. That's literally the only reason.

Your first sentence....look at it. Gus's competition was a Mexican cartel. Which he wiped out.

Meanwhile Marlo could barely keep one side of Baltimore, and had to ask Avon permission to even meet with Boris.

And every goon on Gus's team was a professional, Mike just trained them all. When Gus met with Gaff in season 4 he had more security than Obama.

Chris and Snoop were just street level goons. And hell, Snoop got taken out by Mike.

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The Greek from The Wire trumps all 3 of 'em.

The Greek is the closest but he's not really on Gus's level, either.

He was just a supplier....Gus had the means to create/maintain his own drug distribution for 20 years, to the point that he was indispensable to a cartel.

The Greek was low level enough that he still needed street level dealers to move his product. Gus had access to international shipping if he wanted.

As far as goons, aside from Vondus I don't see The Greek's advantage there, either.

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Whoa. You just saw a small bit of the Greek's operation. He had way more than Baltimore he was supplying. The Greek was into all sorts of shyt also. Human trafficking etc. Lets not make Gus bigger than he was. Gus still answered to the cartel. He had to go to war with them.

The Greek had a international operation, that was more vast than Gus'

You thinking because the Greek resided in Baltimore (for we don't even know how short or long of period) he wasn't big time? The Greek had Feds on payroll. He had people in DC. Internationally he had a whole operation.
 

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Whoa. You just saw a small bit of the Greek's operation. He had way more than Baltimore he was supplying. The Greek was into all sorts of shot also. Lets not make Gus bigger than he was. Gus still answered to the cartel. He had to go to war with them.

The Greek had a international operation, that was more vast than Gus'

You thinking because the Greek resided in Baltimore (for we don't even know how short or long of period) he wasn't big time? The Greek had Feds on payroll. He had people in DC. Internationally he had a whole operation.

I'm going by what we saw or know, factually.

Gus supplied the entire southwest. He had ties to a German corporation, and the ability to ship drugs halfway across the world. He was so important the cartel couldn't kill him, due to it crippling their supply system.

We have no idea what exactly The Greek supplied, or how expansive it was.

I mean....if The Greek is sitting in a cafe in Baltimore, how important is he? He was meeting with bum ass characters like the Sobotkas.

If we're talking about the Greeks as an organization....ok.

But The Greek? I don't see it. Maybe his boss, whoever that is.

Lastly, The Greek and his people were snitching, which is why the FBI was letting shyt he did slide. It wasn't because he was so powerful or important:

http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2008/01/wire-broken-down.html
Alan Sepinwall:
I asked Simon about Koutras after that season ended, because I thought the idea of a corrupt FBI agent ruining the investigation went against the show's philosophy that institutional men are far more dangerous (and prevalent) than evil or corrupt ones, and he laid out exactly what Koutras' motivations were. He genuinely thought The Greek was helping him nab terrorists, and if that meant looking the other way on other crimes, even warning him about impending arrest, then that was a trade-off he was willing to make to fight The War on Terror.

Fred.
 
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