Group economics: This is why black people need our own shyt

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US government is going after car dealers for charging minorities more than whites

Black, Hispanic, and Asian car buyers have been getting a raw deal, according to the US Department of Justice and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

The federal agencies on Tuesday (July 14) settled a discriminatory lending suit with Honda Motor’s finance arm, alleging the car company’s auto dealers charged higher interest rates on loans to minorities than for loans issued to white customers. The CFPB also has been investigating Toyota Motor and Nissan Motor for similar practices.

Between January 2011 and December 2013, African-American customers paid an average of $250 more in interest than comparable white customers paid during the terms of their loans, because of discrimination, the Justice Department said. Likewise, Hispanics and Asians paid $200 and $150 more, respectively.

Honda determines loan rates based largely on a borrower’s creditworthiness but allows car dealerships to mark up the loan rate at the dealer’s discretion—which results in extra compensation to the dealers. Honda doesn’t require dealers to document the reasons for charging markups, and knew or had reason to know that its policy “created a substantial risk of discrimination,” the federal agencies said.

Since car dealers don’t directly collect the race or ethnicity of buyers, the government used a proxy method that analyzes the probability of race and ethnicity based on a person’s name and geographic location.

Honda, whose finance arm is the ninth-largest auto lender in the US, said it had a “difference of opinion” over how the government made its determinations. Still, it said it would pay $24 million to compensate affected customers and that it would revamp its 1,000 dealership’s loan policies because “we nonetheless share a fundamental agreement in the importance of fair lending.”



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Not saying its right, but thats how all dealerships work. Part of the reason why you get your own financing then go in to negotiate.
 

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:whew:I have ok credit and a dealership tried to get me for 15%. Do my own financing check, could get it at 5%:dahell:

They justified cranking the price on me cause of a college loan defaulting, even though my credit history says I have NEVER missed a bill
until then and after.

:ufdup:I would have broke bread with them fukkbois if they didn't try that.
 

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Why do I just think credit is designed to fukk over black & Spanish people in poor neighborhoods? Look at how many passes white people get...with bad credit. Meanwhile the average black kid has no idea about how credit works. And when he does get an idea it's too late. And end up in poverty for the rest of their lives and end up not being able to get a decent job or an apartment afterwards. I wish they taught money management classes in shool.
 

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:whew:I have ok credit and a dealership tried to get me for 15%. Do my own financing check, could get it at 5%:dahell:

They justified cranking the price on me cause of a college loan defaulting, even though my credit history says I have NEVER missed a bill
until then and after.

:ufdup:I would have broke bread with them fukkbois if they didn't try that.
pm your score
 

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The justice department is going after these demons who actually impact your wallet more directly than people like donald sterling etc yet people are finding excuses for them and suggesting its business as usual, so what..
op is right, this happens as well everywhere else incl. home loans. Black folk need to concentrate their vast but scattered wealth.
and notice how whenever that idea comes up non Black people masquerading as Black chime in to try suggest its better for Black people to fall in line and continue buying from the jews and cacs. the idea of unified and independent Black business free from the claws of cacs and catering to Black clientele and beyond appears to rub some people the wrong way..I know this because Blacks are seen as consumers only, never to be producers and retailers. asians dont like buying from Blacks, neither does any other race. Buying Black music is hard for them too, to the point they tried to put a white face on every Black genre.
 

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The gov't tested their theory weirdly. They're looking at the disparities in outcome, but what they need to do is check for disparities in input. For example, what was the average credit-score for whites versus blacks in this context. If they were equal than the gov't has better evidence for the claim they're making, but even than their still other factors to consider like disparities in car choice.

I guess my point is this, only test for individuals who have exactly the same inputs -- same credit-score, same car, bought during the same time, and if you still see a drastic disparity in output than you got a case, but it seems like the Gov't didn't do any of that.
 

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I'm not sure what the benefit is of buying new cars these days.

Buy used, that shyt depreciates the moment you move it off the fukking lot. Never mind US dealers charging blacks more, they should ignoring dealers and buying used.
Also, don't take out a loan for a fukking car. Live within your means and save up for a used car.
 
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