Goat Producers Tournament (Rd1): Mass Appeal vs Street Dreams

Goat Producers: Better Beat?

  • Mass Appeal (DJ Premier)

    Votes: 21 84.0%
  • Street Dreams (Trackmasters)

    Votes: 4 16.0%

  • Total voters
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Mass Appeal. Easily.

This is just two different levels of production. Premier had to chop and rearrange everything for "Mass Appeal". That joint was masterfully done. "Street Dreams" was just a loop.

Tone and Poke took the Linda Clifford joint and just looped it. They didn't do sh*t.



Nah.
 

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Mass Appeal. Easily.

This is just two different levels of production. Premier had to chop and rearrange everything for "Mass Appeal". That joint was masterfully done. "Street Dreams" was just a loop.

Tone and Poke took the Linda Clifford joint and just looped it. They didn't do sh*t.



Nah.

Taking a loop back in the day vs taking a loop now is totally different… not saying u said that

But to say they did nothing but looped it I have to disagree with you ….. shyt ain’t as easy as it sounds especially with the equipment nikkaz was using back in the day

Both dope ass beats but mass appeal is better straight up
 

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Taking a loop back in the day vs taking a loop now is totally different… not saying u said that

But to say they did nothing but looped it I have to disagree with you ….. shyt ain’t as easy as it sounds especially with the equipment nikkaz was using back in the day

Both dope ass beats but mass appeal is better straight up

In the mid-90's, if you didn't chop or change a loop, it was seen as doing less work.

That's why Prince Paul said, "Today, we have become more advance with our skills, so we chop now, instead of just looping popular things like Puffy does". Diamond D spoke on the bassline he used for "K.I.S.S." and said that Premier used the same one for "DWYCK", but that "We didn't just loop it. That's the lazy way. We both chopped it into our own thing and made it different".

That was how the legends spoke about loops back then. You weren't supposed to just loop some sh*t up. All of us who started producing back then kinda knew that we could loop something in two seconds, and make a lazy track, but if we took the time to actually make it our own and chopped our samples, that was a different level of creativity. But this is why Trackmasters got a lot of flack back then. People said they were biting Pac's sh*t. But they used to loop a lot of their sh*t, and people would clown them for it because they didn't start that way. Once Puff made it popular, they switched to what he was doing and admitted it.
 
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In the mid-90's, if you didn't chop or change a loop, it was seen as doing less work.

That's why Prince Paul said, "Today, we have become more advance with our skills, so we chop now, instead of just looping popular things like Puffy does". Diamond D spoke on the bassline he used for "K.I.S.S." and said that Premier used the same one for "DWYCK", but that "We didn't just loop it. That's the lazy way. We both chopped it into our own thing and made it different".

That was how the legends spoke about loops back then. You weren't supposed to just loop some sh*t up. All of us who started producing back then kinda knew that we could loop something in two seconds, and make a lazy track, but if we took the time to actually make it our own and chopped our samples, that was a different level of creativity. But this is why Trackmasters got a lot of flack back then. People said they were biting Pac's sh*t. But they used to loop a lot of their sh*t, and people would clown them for it because they didn't start that way. Once Puff made it popular, they switched to what he was doing and admitted it.
I get your point …this wasn’t a straight loop ….they added things to beat and the drums
 
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