Gender Pay Gap in 2016?

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Now is the time of year when they are reviewing end of year earnings, tax returns and shyt like that. I'm seeing all these gender pay gap articles like this one https://news.vice.com/article/british-women-are-working-for-free-from-today-until-january

When I think of the gender pay gap I see 3 issues and it has nothing to do with discrimination (the below only applies to Western societies, 1st world countries and developed nations):

1) Women typically do not take high paying jobs in Sales or Tech. They usually like to work for Fashion brands and other companies that rely on free millennial intern labor. I told my cousin that if she wants to make money and not struggle she needs to follow in her Father's footsteps and get into Tech, and ideally combine it with a business degree. So study tech on the side and then get into project management for IT and you are talking 100k out of the gate when combined with a Six Sigma or other CERT. That much won't change 10 years from now when she will be 26 or so.

2) Women typically are more loyal to companies and not willing to leave quick enough when they realize they are being underpaid or undervalued. They do not negotiate or ask for more money and they don't say "No" enough. Then they usually take on more they can handle and end up getting fired. If you don't stick up for yourself no one else will. Having a valued skill will keep you employed and you always want the ball to be in your court not the employers. Women need to focus on getting skills in industries where there is a serious lack of talent.

3) Women have trouble controlling their emotions. A leader needs to be somewhat aloof, dedicated but impassioned. A lot of female managers need to have a better tighter grasp on their emotions and not let the estrogen dictate managerial decisions. The same can be said for Men, but Men who practice too many risk taking behaviors driven by high testosterone are usually pushed out anyways. The thing is a Man is not going to sue or win in court for gender discrimination (unless it's a female dominated industry) so they can feel comfortable hiring a Male executive and fire him if things get bad without fear of backlash or PR problems. But put the wrong Woman in that position and it can be a real conundrum getting her out if she's not a good fit.

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yeah at my company the women who are doing the SAME JOB as their male counterparts, make the same money

i feel like they push this misconception that they get paid less for the same work, when its really that they have different jobs. which itself could be a problem with opportunities, stereotypes, etc

or maybe im wrong :heh:
 
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Why wouldn't a shareholder conscious company hire exclusively women and save about 23% on labor?

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No :troll: it has been happening this is why they can hire like 10 female secretaries who can't do shyt, unmotivated cause they paid 10k each with no health bennies but try and squeeze blood out of a turnip when it comes to one lead engineer that cost 200k a year but produces millions of dollars in revenue by his activities for the company. Let's say their profit margin is like 25% off of $2 mil he generated 500k in profit. He paid for himself. They spent 200k and got 300k back his ROI is 150%.

In what universe do you squeeze a guy at 150% ROI to try and be 175% at the absolute most meanwhile you have 100k for 10 hoes costing the company their salary and more in inefficient behaviors, gossiping and shyt. In FemAmerikkka that's where.
 

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Any body got some statistics on pay gap for sub 250k-100k earners?
 

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No :troll: it has been happening this is why they can hire like 10 female secretaries who can't do shyt, unmotivated cause they paid 10k each with no health bennies but try and squeeze blood out of a turnip when it comes to one lead engineer that cost 200k a year but produces millions of dollars in revenue by his activities for the company. Let's say their profit margin is like 25% off of $2 mil he generated 500k in profit. He paid for himself. They spent 200k and got 300k back his ROI is 150%.

In what universe do you squeeze a guy at 150% ROI to try and be 175% at the absolute most meanwhile you have 100k for 10 hoes costing the company their salary and more in inefficient behaviors, gossiping and shyt. In FemAmerikkka that's where.


You've misinterpreted the purpose of having secretaries.
 

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Now is the time of year when they are reviewing end of year earnings, tax returns and shyt like that. I'm seeing all these gender pay gap articles like this one British Women Are Working for Free From Today Until January | VICE News

When I think of the gender pay gap I see 3 issues and it has nothing to do with discrimination (the below only applies to Western societies, 1st world countries and developed nations):

1) Women typically do not take high paying jobs in Sales or Tech. They usually like to work for Fashion brands and other companies that rely on free millennial intern labor. I told my cousin that if she wants to make money and not struggle she needs to follow in her Father's footsteps and get into Tech, and ideally combine it with a business degree. So study tech on the side and then get into project management for IT and you are talking 100k out of the gate when combined with a Six Sigma or other CERT. That much won't change 10 years from now when she will be 26 or so.

2) Women typically are more loyal to companies and not willing to leave quick enough when they realize they are being underpaid or undervalued. They do not negotiate or ask for more money and they don't say "No" enough. Then they usually take on more they can handle and end up getting fired. If you don't stick up for yourself no one else will. Having a valued skill will keep you employed and you always want the ball to be in your court not the employers. Women need to focus on getting skills in industries where there is a serious lack of talent.

3) Women have trouble controlling their emotions. A leader needs to be somewhat aloof, dedicated but impassioned. A lot of female managers need to have a better tighter grasp on their emotions and not let the estrogen dictate managerial decisions. The same can be said for Men, but Men who practice too many risk taking behaviors driven by high testosterone are usually pushed out anyways. The thing is a Man is not going to sue or win in court for gender discrimination (unless it's a female dominated industry) so they can feel comfortable hiring a Male executive and fire him if things get bad without fear of backlash or PR problems. But put the wrong Woman in that position and it can be a real conundrum getting her out if she's not a good fit.

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It's a myth and no economist takes this seriously.....

Women prefer a more balanced life and gravitate towards fields that accommodate that...

Add taking time out to have/raise children and well.........
 
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It's a myth and no economist takes this seriously.....

Women prefer a more balanced life and gravitate towards fields that accommodate that...

Add taking time out to have/raise children and well.........

The funny thing is, a lot of these Madison avenue jobs have the same hours as Engineers but pay half as much....I think it's more about doing what they find "interesting", "pursuing passion" and all that other B.S.
 
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OP clearly has a PHD in psychology and sociology

I do not....

However, I did take a somewhat liberal arts major but took a lot of technical electives which gave me insight into the differences in thinking and paths that Women chose...

Almost no hot women were in my elective courses except for stuff like health sciences which involved nutrition etc...

There were ZERO women in my math classes and just a couple in my chem class.
 
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