Gen Z and The Star Wars prequels
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KalKal
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The article was kind of poorly written, but I was saying something similar to this when Mandalorian Season 2 first came out:
The Star Wars sequel trilogy SUCKED because it was aimed at "Generation X" (like me) casual fans. The type of people who whined about the prequels "ruining their childhood."
The Mandalorian is great because its aimed at KIDS who grew up as superfans of the Prequels and related cartoon series.
A few years ago it was kind of a meme to talk about millennials "killing" everything. But young people actually saved Star Wars IMO. Aiming Episode 7 at the old nostalgia crowd was Disney's first mistake.
i kind feel like the opposite, mandolarian seems clearly aimed at gen x fans and the sequel trilogy was aimed at younger audiences. Gen X did not want to see luke, han and leia tossed aside for new characters. Mando season 2 gave us the luke we wanted to see.
KalKal
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Lucas was too in love with technology to realize that CGI wasn't developed enough yet to do virtual sets. And that once HD tech spread to the home, watching 1999 bad CGI on TV would look much WORSE than 1968 models from 2001 A Space Odyssey.
So he made a movie that looked like crap compared to movies 30 years older.
yeah,
he also was pretty bad at dialog, very basic
people wanted a prequel focused on vader and obiwan. we got obiwan. but vader didn't appear until the last seconds of the final movie. nobody cares about young pod racing anakin. should've started with the third movie and did two more after that.
killed off fan favorite characters really quickly, like qui gon, darth maul,jango. but kept fan detested character jarjar around for the whole trilogy
speaking of jarjar, too much focus on trying to sell toys. i understand he basically was taking all the finacial risk with this and his pockets weren't as deep as say disney, but clearly some decisions where made for that purpose.
but despite this, he still a very clear view of the overarching plot and clear direction. good world building and added plenty to the lore.
yep, from a film making perspective the sequels trilogy shyts all over the prequels. Better acting, better effects, looks more like the og trilogy.
but the writing and lore was awful.
KalKal
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My other problem was related to the fact that Lucas refused to do a time jump within a movie...but Jake Lloyd couldn't act so we were stuck with him for an entire movie.
If I had my way, I would combine the good parts of Ep 1 and 2 into 1 movie, and split Ep 3 into 2 movies (first movie Grevious and Dooku, 2nd movie Order 66 and the aftermath with non-suit Vader).
But it still put the prequels way above Eps 7-9.
Days of Future Piff
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I used to be one of those people that HATED the prequels because of the Plinkett reviews. After Episode 7-9, I can respect them a little more. Revenge of the Sith had TRASH dialouge and too much CG, but other than that it was decent. It's going to hit differently after I finish Clone Wars. I can actually respect Episode III as a decent movie today (but it's not better than the OG films).
Episodes 1 and 2 were pretty bad movies, but they at least put respect on the Jedi, gave us a handful of memorable characters (Maul, Windu, Grievous, Dooku), and expanded on the lore that was only hinted at in the OG movies. As bad as they were, they had a clear direction in terms of where they were headed and they gave us something to look forward to with Anakin's inevitable turn to the Dark Side.
You could delete episodes 7-9 from existence completely and nothing of value would have been lost from the Star Wars universe. They wrecked the legacies of all the OG heroes and added nothing to the lore. The sequels are competently written, acted, and directed films, but they're creatively bankrupt.
George Lucas' vision and worldbuilding is
... he was just too in love with technology and he sucks at writing dialogue. There really needed to be one or two extra pairs of eyes who could check him when his ideas weren't that great or if a scene wasn't working.
Episodes 1 and 2 were pretty bad movies, but they at least put respect on the Jedi, gave us a handful of memorable characters (Maul, Windu, Grievous, Dooku), and expanded on the lore that was only hinted at in the OG movies. As bad as they were, they had a clear direction in terms of where they were headed and they gave us something to look forward to with Anakin's inevitable turn to the Dark Side.
You could delete episodes 7-9 from existence completely and nothing of value would have been lost from the Star Wars universe. They wrecked the legacies of all the OG heroes and added nothing to the lore. The sequels are competently written, acted, and directed films, but they're creatively bankrupt.
George Lucas' vision and worldbuilding is
... he was just too in love with technology and he sucks at writing dialogue. There really needed to be one or two extra pairs of eyes who could check him when his ideas weren't that great or if a scene wasn't working.
It was more than the dialogue and CGI that hampered the prequels.I used to be one of those people that HATED the prequels because of the Plinkett reviews. After Episode 7-9, I can respect them a little more. Revenge of the Sith had TRASH dialouge and too much CG, but other than that it was decent. It's going to hit differently after I finish Clone Wars. I can actually respect Episode III as a decent movie today (but it's not better than the OG films).
Episodes 1 and 2 were pretty bad movies, but they at least put respect on the Jedi, gave us a handful of memorable characters (Maul, Windu, Grievous, Dooku), and expanded on the lore that was only hinted at in the OG movies. As bad as they were, they had a clear direction in terms of where they were headed and they gave us something to look forward to with Anakin's inevitable turn to the Dark Side.
You could delete episodes 7-9 from existence completely and nothing of value would have been lost from the Star Wars universe. They wrecked the legacies of all the OG heroes and added nothing to the lore. The sequels are competently written, acted, and directed films, but they're creatively bankrupt.
George Lucas' vision and worldbuilding is
... he was just too in love with technology and he sucks at writing dialogue. There really needed to be one or two extra pairs of eyes who could check him when his ideas weren't that great or if a scene wasn't working.
It was the characters which bought down the prequels.
No matter what you think about the sequels there are actually characters with personality.
The prequel characters go where the plot wants them to go.
The anchor of the prequels is Anakin’s turn to dark side, but the Anakin character is so poorly written you feel no type of sympathy for him