Frederick Douglass & Harriet Tubman statues unveiled in MD

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Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass Honored With Statues in Maryland State House
Both historic figures were born into slavery in Maryland and went on to become key activists in the abolitionist movement
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February 12, 2020
In November 1864, lawmakers gathered at the Maryland State House to ratify a new constitution prohibiting slavery. On Monday, more than 150 years after this momentous event, lawmakers convened at the Annapolis state capitol to unveil bronze statues honoring abolitionists Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass, both of whom were born into slavery in Maryland.


As Erin Cox reports for the Washington Post, the statues are installed inside the capitol’s Old House Chamber—the same room where Maryland formally abolished the institution of slavery. Tubman and Douglass are depicted as they might have looked on this momentous day in the state’s history. Douglass wears a long coat, holding a copy of his abolitionist newspaper Douglass Monthly; Tubman, rendered in a “historically accurate 4 feet, 10 inches,” according to Emily Opilo of the Baltimore Sun, gazes at the front of the room, where the legislation would have been signed.

The state marked the statues’ unveiling with a ceremony attended by officials and descendants of Tubman and Douglass, among others.

“A mark of true greatness is shining light on a system of oppression and having the courage to change it,” said Maryland House Speaker Adrienne A. Jones during the event, as quoted by the Post. “The statues are a reminder that our laws aren’t always right or just. But there’s always room for improvement.”

Tubman was born into slavery in Maryland’s Dorchester County in approximately 1820. She escaped to Philadelphia in 1849 but made multiple trips back to Maryland, at great personal risk, to usher around 70 other enslaved people to freedom along the Underground Railroad. Douglass, who was born in 1818 on Maryland’s eastern shore, fled northward in 1838. He became a passionate orator for the abolitionist cause, launched an anti-slavery newspaper, and wrote an autobiography that became “highly influential” in the battle for abolition.

The movement to honor these remarkable figures at the Maryland State House began in 2016, in part to “dilute the pro-Southern flavor of the State House that took shape in the decades following the Civil War,” wrote Michael Dresser of the Baltimore Sun at the time. A focal point of the debate was a monument to Roger B. Taney—primarily remembered for writing the majority opinion in the Dred Scott case, which ruled that African Americans could not be considered citizens of the United States—that sat on the grounds of the State House.

The Taney statue was removed in 2017, but other controversial markers remain. A 1964 plaque, for instance, commemorates the 100th anniversary of the Civil War and pays tribute to both Union and Confederate soldiers who died during the conflict. Last October, after objections were raised to the memorial, the State House Trust voted to remove the plaque’s Confederate flag. But language honoring Confederate soldiers has remained. During Monday’s unveiling ceremony, the plaque was draped with a black cloth, according to the Post.

There is no evidence that Tubman ever stopped by the State House, but Douglass is known to have visited the building in 1874; he reportedly paced in front of a painting of George Washington while reciting the president’s 1783 speech resigning as the commander-in-chief of the Continental Army.

“This doesn’t change the past,” Ivan Schwartz, the sculptor who worked on the new monuments, tells the Sun, “but it does begin to open a room with a different view.”
 

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1. A literal symbolic gesture
2. They couldn’t have at least hired a black artist to do the sculptures :mjtf:
I'm not really big on symbolism....but I like them. They look really good. With the right quote attached to them, and they'll be perfect.
Symbolism?
Don't you think it's important that future generations of Americans know who these people were and the things they accomplished?

Is there a photo or memorial of the founder of your church somewhere in the building?
 

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Symbolism?
Don't you think it's important that future generations of Americans know who these people were and the things they accomplished?

Is there a photo or memorial of the founder of your church somewhere in the building?
Best way to honor their legacies and accomplishments is complete repentance. This is just another way to avoid it with a shiny object
 

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Symbolism?
Don't you think it's important that future generations of Americans know who these people were and the things they accomplished?

Is there a photo or memorial of the founder of your church somewhere in the building?
I don't think statutes are the most efficient way to inform future generations of what things were accomplished.

case in point, think of the statutes in your city, pick any of them....do you know who those people are?

I know NYC did a review on whether to replace the statues here, and to be honest, I had no idea who 99% of them were when they created the list, even though I've walked past them for the last 20 years.
 

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I don't think statutes are the most efficient way to inform future generations of what things were accomplished.

case in point, think of the statutes in your city, pick any of them....do you know who those people are?*

I know NYC did a review on whether to replace the statues here, and to be honest, I had no idea who 99% of them were when they created the list, even though I've walked past them for the last 20 years.

I grew up in one of the oldest cities in America. The schools I attended made it a point that we knew who the men featured in the Washington Park and Military Park statues/monuments were. Plus, towns,schools ,and streets were named for those people, reinforcing their importance in US and state history.

Are statues the most efficient use of resources to tell history? That would be answered on a case by case basis. Frederick Douglass is one of the central figures in American history, so is Harriet Tubman, so I think you would judge them by different criteria than others.

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*To answer your question, I knew who the people in the statues were when I was younger. Now, not so much... just based on looking at the statue. I would be able to identify many statues of Black people from North America and the Caribbean, though.
 
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THE ORIGINAL DOUGLASS MONUMENT IN ROCHESTER,NY 1899





They put up replicas of this monument around Rochester 2 years ago

*oh, and as you might have imagined, the inevitable.......


statue replacement went back up and the two pieces of shyt got arrested and suspended from their college
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HAPPENED AGAIN !

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Frederick Douglass statue ripped from base


July 6, 2020



Rochester, N.Y. — A statue of abolitionist Frederick Douglass was ripped from its base in Rochester on the anniversary of one of his most famous speeches, delivered in the city in 1852.

Police said the statue was taken on Sunday from Maplewood Park, a site along the Underground Railroad where Douglass and Harriet Tubman helped shuttle slaves to freedom.

The statue was found at the brink of the Genesee River gorge about 50 feet from its pedestal, police said. There was damage to the base and a finger.

In Rochester on July 5, 1852, Douglass gave the speech "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July," in which he called the celebration of liberty a sham in a nation that enslaves and oppresses its Black citizens.

To a slave, Douglass said, Independence Day is "a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim."

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A statue of abolitionist Frederick Douglass, left, was toppled from its base in a park in Rochester, N.Y., right, over the Fourth of July weekend. AP / WROC-TV
Carvin Eison, a leader of the project that brought the Douglass statue to the park, told the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle another statue will take its place because the damage to the one that was pulled down is too significant.

Eison and others involved in the monument's creation believe the current national focus on race could have played a role in the vandalism.


"Is this some type of retaliation because of the national fever over Confederate monuments right now? Very disappointing, it's beyond disappointing," Eison observed to CBS Rochester affiliate WROC-TV.

"I feel (we should) put a monument back here immediately so whoever did this knows that we are not going to be deterred from what our objective is, and our objective is to continually celebrate Frederick Douglass," said Eison.

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Frederick Douglass escaped slavery, and in 1852 delivered a fiery condemnation of liberty for some but not all.
The statue was one of 13 placed throughout the city in 2018, and this was the second monument to be vandalized, WROC notes.

Reverand Julius Jackson Jr. was there for the first incident, which involved drunk college students, and he is hoping the latest act is also one of unintended mischief.

"We've been down this road before I actually spoke to the vandals of the first one," he told WROC. "I would like to believe it's not that, it was just some kids. But it wouldn't surprise me if it's some retaliatory, something going on."

Eison said, "They can topple over this monument, they could go topple over all of them, this monument will still stand because the ideas behind it are bigger than the monument."
 
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