Fortnite's maker sues Apple and Google after the game was removed from both app stores - CNN
Fortnite's maker sues Apple and Google after the game was removed from both app stores
By Brian Fung and Shannon Liao, CNN Business
Updated 11:06 PM ET, Thu August 13, 2020
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In a blog post, Epic said players could not get the discount if they paid via Apple or Google.
"Currently, when using Apple and Google payment options, Apple and Google collect a 30% fee, and the up to 20% price drop does not apply."
The company added, "If Apple or Google lower their fees on payments in the future, Epic will pass along the savings to you."
Epic's post referred to how both Apple and Google app stores take a 30% cut of in-app sales. Epic CEO Tim Sweeney has publicly criticized both Apple and Google for their practices.
Hours later, Fortnite had vanished from Apple's app store — and Epic responded with a lawsuit.
"Apple's removal of Fortnite is yet another example of Apple flexing its enormous power in order to impose unreasonable restraints and unlawfully maintain its 100% monopoly over the iOS in-app payment processing market," Epic said in its complaint, which was filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of California. It requested an injunction to prohibit Apple's allegedly anticompetitive conduct and to mandate that Apple restore competition.
Apple said Thursday that Epic had violated its App Store guidelines regarding in-app payments.
"Today, Epic Games took the unfortunate step of violating the App Store guidelines that are applied equally to every developer and designed to keep the store safe for our users," Apple said in a statement emailed to CNN Business. "As a result their Fortnite app has been removed from the store."
Apple said it will work with Epic to resolve the violations so Fortnite can return to the App Store.
Later Thursday, Google said it too had removed Fortnite from the Google Play Store, though the game can still be installed from other sources on Android devices.
"The open Android ecosystem lets developers distribute apps through multiple app stores," Google said in a statement. "For game developers who choose to use the Play Store, we have consistent policies that are fair to developers and keep the store safe for users. While Fortnite remains available on Android, we can no longer make it available on Play because it violates our policies. However, we welcome the opportunity to continue our discussions with Epic and bring Fortnite back to Google Play."
In response, Epic filed another suit — this time against Google.
Google "is using its size to do evil upon competitors, innovators, customers, and users in a slew of markets it has grown to monopolize," the complaint, filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of California, read.
An ongoing antagonistic relationship
This isn't the first time Epic has had an antagonistic relationship with the major app stores. In 2018, Epic announced it would not bring Fortnite to Google's Play Store and instead asked players to download the game directly from its website.
In April, Epic released Fortnite on the Google Play Store, two years after the game landed on iOS. At the time, it explained in a statement that it finally made the move because software downloaded outside of Google Play on Android operates at a disadvantage, suffering from security pop-ups and restrictions, with Google public relations describing such software as malware.
The revolt against the dominant app store operators includes other household names. Last year, Netflix ended support for in-app subscriptions, asking users instead to pay through its website. Spotify made a similar decision in 2016.
More recently, the new email service Hey.com found itself at odds with Apple because it did not use Apple's own payment platform. Hey's founder, David Heinemeier Hansson, testified in January against Apple's practices in a congressional hearing held by the House Judiciary Committee's antitrust panel, which is investigating Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google for potential anticompetitive behavior. Hansson has told CNN he's also spoken to Justice Department antitrust officials about the app's experience with Apple.
Apple's policies have attracted the attention of international competition regulators, as well. Earlier this year, the European Commission opened two antitrust investigations into Apple's App Store, citing a complaint by Spotify.
Apple has rejected claims that it uses its control over the iOS App Store in an anticompetitive manner. It hired an independent research firm to publish a report showing that the 30% cut it takes is standard across many digital marketplaces.
As Epic was preparing to launch its own software marketplace, Sweeney said it no longer makes sense for app stores to take such a hefty chunk of app developers' revenue.
"The 70/30 percent split was a breakthrough more than a decade ago with the advent of Steam, the Apple App Store, and Google Play," Sweeney said in an interview with Game Informer. "But today, digital software stores have grown into a $25,000,000,000+ business worldwide across all platforms, yet the economies of scale have not benefited developers."
Epic says its own app store takes a much smaller cut from app makers — just 12%.
Fortnite's maker sues Apple and Google after the game was removed from both app stores
By Brian Fung and Shannon Liao, CNN Business
Updated 11:06 PM ET, Thu August 13, 2020
In a blog post, Epic said players could not get the discount if they paid via Apple or Google.
"Currently, when using Apple and Google payment options, Apple and Google collect a 30% fee, and the up to 20% price drop does not apply."
The company added, "If Apple or Google lower their fees on payments in the future, Epic will pass along the savings to you."
Epic's post referred to how both Apple and Google app stores take a 30% cut of in-app sales. Epic CEO Tim Sweeney has publicly criticized both Apple and Google for their practices.
Hours later, Fortnite had vanished from Apple's app store — and Epic responded with a lawsuit.
"Apple's removal of Fortnite is yet another example of Apple flexing its enormous power in order to impose unreasonable restraints and unlawfully maintain its 100% monopoly over the iOS in-app payment processing market," Epic said in its complaint, which was filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of California. It requested an injunction to prohibit Apple's allegedly anticompetitive conduct and to mandate that Apple restore competition.
Apple said Thursday that Epic had violated its App Store guidelines regarding in-app payments.
"Today, Epic Games took the unfortunate step of violating the App Store guidelines that are applied equally to every developer and designed to keep the store safe for our users," Apple said in a statement emailed to CNN Business. "As a result their Fortnite app has been removed from the store."
Apple said it will work with Epic to resolve the violations so Fortnite can return to the App Store.
Later Thursday, Google said it too had removed Fortnite from the Google Play Store, though the game can still be installed from other sources on Android devices.
"The open Android ecosystem lets developers distribute apps through multiple app stores," Google said in a statement. "For game developers who choose to use the Play Store, we have consistent policies that are fair to developers and keep the store safe for users. While Fortnite remains available on Android, we can no longer make it available on Play because it violates our policies. However, we welcome the opportunity to continue our discussions with Epic and bring Fortnite back to Google Play."
In response, Epic filed another suit — this time against Google.
Google "is using its size to do evil upon competitors, innovators, customers, and users in a slew of markets it has grown to monopolize," the complaint, filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of California, read.
An ongoing antagonistic relationship
This isn't the first time Epic has had an antagonistic relationship with the major app stores. In 2018, Epic announced it would not bring Fortnite to Google's Play Store and instead asked players to download the game directly from its website.
In April, Epic released Fortnite on the Google Play Store, two years after the game landed on iOS. At the time, it explained in a statement that it finally made the move because software downloaded outside of Google Play on Android operates at a disadvantage, suffering from security pop-ups and restrictions, with Google public relations describing such software as malware.
The revolt against the dominant app store operators includes other household names. Last year, Netflix ended support for in-app subscriptions, asking users instead to pay through its website. Spotify made a similar decision in 2016.
More recently, the new email service Hey.com found itself at odds with Apple because it did not use Apple's own payment platform. Hey's founder, David Heinemeier Hansson, testified in January against Apple's practices in a congressional hearing held by the House Judiciary Committee's antitrust panel, which is investigating Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google for potential anticompetitive behavior. Hansson has told CNN he's also spoken to Justice Department antitrust officials about the app's experience with Apple.
Apple's policies have attracted the attention of international competition regulators, as well. Earlier this year, the European Commission opened two antitrust investigations into Apple's App Store, citing a complaint by Spotify.
Apple has rejected claims that it uses its control over the iOS App Store in an anticompetitive manner. It hired an independent research firm to publish a report showing that the 30% cut it takes is standard across many digital marketplaces.
As Epic was preparing to launch its own software marketplace, Sweeney said it no longer makes sense for app stores to take such a hefty chunk of app developers' revenue.
"The 70/30 percent split was a breakthrough more than a decade ago with the advent of Steam, the Apple App Store, and Google Play," Sweeney said in an interview with Game Informer. "But today, digital software stores have grown into a $25,000,000,000+ business worldwide across all platforms, yet the economies of scale have not benefited developers."
Epic says its own app store takes a much smaller cut from app makers — just 12%.
they had to know this would happen...
I thought it was the most random collab yet 
good.
that's terrible"
tho