For Profit Colleges are absolutely obliterating our HBCU’s. HBCU enrollment Iowest since 2001

[EndDomination]

Until HBCUs fix their financial aid process they will continue to fall behind

That’s not the problem.
Virtually all public HBCUs have classes composed of 70%+ Pell Grant recipients. You can’t run a school exclusively on the current federal and state funding - you need a good chunk of the class to be able to pay out of pocket.
Otherwise you need a large endowment, or corporate subsidizing/large donations from alumni.
Most HBCUs don’t have this, save for Howard and Spelman.

 

[EndDomination]

Integration happened. And these public colleges and universities were no longer able to legally deny admission to the children of taxpaying citizens who supported them. Private universities couldn't ban admission to students based on race either.

About your second point. Celebs and philanthropists can't keep bailing out failing or poorly managed schools. Some of them are money pits.

When it comes to HBCUs - virtually all of them produce better outcomes for their black students than nearby schools do or would. They’ve had, for the most part, a history of being underfunded.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Integration happened. And these public colleges and universities were no longer able to legally deny admission to the children of taxpaying citizens who supported them. Private universities couldn't ban admission to students based on race either.

About your second point. Celebs and philanthropists can't keep bailing out failing or poorly managed schools. Some of them are money pits.

That's not the problem because they can still legally prefer Black students. They take White students because they need to pay the bills. If Black enrollment at HCBU's was on point then they wouldn't be needing to take White students. And I don't blame the students - when I was a kid there were very few HCBUs whose name was being put at the same level as the good PWIs out there, and none even close to the top PWIs. Even if they might have advantages over PWIs for many reasons, that's not the narrative most kids hear, especially if they're not growing up in the South.

For HCBUs to come up there has to be an improvement in their funding, faculty, administration, and marketing, so that they can pull a lot more Black students. At the same time there also needs to be better K-12 education for Black students to increase the college-prep level of the kids, both to increase enrollment at HCBUs and to ensure that more of the students who enroll there are actually ready for a college-level curriculum.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

When it comes to HBCUs - virtually all of them produce better outcomes for their black students than nearby schools do or would. They’ve had, for the most part, a history of being underfunded.

Yep, satisfaction is significantly higher. And a quite large % of Black professionals still come out of HCBUs.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I’m genuinely curious, what are the employment outcomes for your students? Graduation rates? What about their debt levels upon graduation? Do y’all provide financial aid or debt management education?

Great questions.

Some studies have shown that a degree from a for-profit college is worth less to employers than a degree from a community college even though costs are FAR more.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

For profit college is the payday loan industry of education. For the few that it has actually benefitted, there are multitudes that have been placed in distress because of it.

Defund and remove all for-profit colleges.

Obama was on the way to doing it - I believe Sanders has it as a part of his plan as well.

For profit-colleges are part of the reason behind the greater debt load and lower employment rate for Black college graduates, and for lower graduation rates as well.

THIS.

I gotta look for some quotes I got from a book about how for-profit colleges explicitly search for needy people to exploit, especially black folk, single moms, underemployed folk, etc., lie to them and then ladle them with massive debts. The shyt that was revealed about their closed-door meetings would make you sick.

 

[Gus Money]

Great questions.

Some studies have shown that a degree from a for-profit college is worth less to employers than a degree from a community college even though costs are FAR more.

THIS.

I gotta look for some quotes I got from a book about how for-profit colleges explicitly search for needy people to exploit, especially black folk, single moms, underemployed folk, etc., lie to them and then ladle them with massive debts. The shyt that was revealed about their closed-door meetings would make you sick.

I believe it, I used to work for a poverty nonprofit and almost every student loan case we had involved a for-profit school. All of our clients were poor and vulnerable in some sort of way, and these schools knew exactly how to target them. They’d sell dreams and take their money with no benefit at the end.

One school refused to even provide diplomas to some our clients who graduated. We tried to sue them but we couldn’t even find a real address.

 

[newworldafro]

6,000 fewer student is not to bad

Just got to work on some things.

More scary is coronavirus impact Yahoo is now a part of Verizon Media

 

[88m3]

I'm all for banning scam colleges but it also sounds like HBCUs really need to get their shyt together before it's too late.