For Lesser Crimes, Rethinking Life Behind Bars

[zerozero]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/12/s...s-face-growing-skepticism.html?pagewanted=all

“Even though you have been involved in drugs and drug dealing,” Judge Vinson told Ms. George, “your role has basically been as a girlfriend and bag holder and money holder but not actively involved in the drug dealing, so certainly in my judgment it does not warrant a life sentence.”

Yet the judge had no other option on that morning 15 years ago. As her stunned family watched, Ms. George, then 27, who had never been accused of violence, was led from the courtroom to serve a sentence of life without parole.

“I remember my mom crying out and asking the Lord why,” said Ms. George, now 42, in an interview at the Federal Correctional Institution in Tallahassee. “Sometimes I still can’t believe myself it could happen in America.”

Her sentence reflected a revolution in public policy, often called mass incarceration, that appears increasingly dubious to both conservative and liberal social scientists. They point to evidence that mass incarceration is no longer a cost-effective way to make streets safer, and may even be promoting crime instead of suppressing it.

it's a long article check it out

 

[Brown_Pride]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/12/s...s-face-growing-skepticism.html?pagewanted=all



it's a long article check it out

Whatever the truth of the testimony against her, it certainly benefited the other defendants. Providing evidence to the prosecution is one of the few ways to avoid a mandatory sentence. Because the government formally credited the other defendants with “substantial assistance,” their sentences were all reduced to less than 15 years. Even though Mr. dikkey was the leader of the enterprise and had a much longer criminal record than Ms. George, he was freed five years ago.

wtf?
THat's like a group of thugs robbing and killing someone and the guy at the hardware store who sold them the rope to tie the guy up with getting the chair.

This shyt makes no sense at all? What type of DA goes after the lady on this?

and right here is the root of all this shyt

Ms. George, who has gotten a college degree in prison, calls the children every Sunday. She pays for the calls, which cost 23 cents a minute, with wages from two jobs: a regular eight-hour shift of data processing that pays 92 cents an hour, supplemented by four hours of overtime work at a call center in the prison that provides 411 directory assistance to phone companies.

damn near free labor.

 

[zerozero]

wtf?
THat's like a group of thugs robbing and killing someone and the guy at the hardware store who sold them the rope to tie the guy up with getting the chair.

This shyt makes no sense at all? What type of DA goes after the lady on this?

and right here is the root of all this shyt
damn near free labor.

I've seen other examples of this... people who were barely involved with something get longer sentences than people who were actually involved who turn informant

it's like a surreal game or something. I think prosecutors should be interested in justice, not just racking up convictions

 

[Brown_Pride]

the one time somebody should come in here and drop the demonic bomb and he's no where to be found.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

I've seen other examples of this... people who were barely involved with something get longer sentences than people who were actually involved who turn informant

it's like a surreal game or something. I think prosecutors should be interested in justice, not just racking up convictions

Why are folks still surprised by this.. This country has never been fair or about true justice. Nor have you ever had true freedom. Where does the illusion that any of this ever existed here come from? They been locking black folks up for minor charges. This is nothing new. Before that they turned firehoses and dogs on blacks and before that they were lynching folks. At no point in American history has their ever been a fair "Justice" system. folks sell crack then wanna complain about their "rights" when they doing football numbers.

 

[IrishBrother]

American prisons are modern day slave labour camps.

 

[Top Flight Security]

Ms. George, who has gotten a college degree in prison, calls the children every Sunday. She pays for the calls, which cost 23 cents a minute, with wages from two jobs: a regular eight-hour shift of data processing that pays 92 cents an hour, supplemented by four hours of overtime work at a call center in the prison that provides 411 directory assistance to phone companies.

now this is just fukked up. give that fukking job to someone who needs the shyt, not someone you can play slave wages to. fukk all the other shyt, THIS is a microcosm of what's wrong with capitalistic america.

sidenote: next time i call 411 on my celly, i'ma ask the bytch if she's in prison

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

And you thought slavery was abolished......................​

 

[Serious]

And you thought slavery was abolished......................​

I wouldn't even view it as slavery. More like capitalism. Slavery and racism are nothing more than mechanisms used make the under educated, poor "americans" feel content, about being poor and stupid.

with that said,


What's truly, messed up is how sohh much of prison society in America, doesn't focus on reform and rehabilitation.

 

[88m3]

I wouldn't even view it as slavery. More like capitalism. Slavery and racism are nothing more than mechanisms used make the under educated, poor "americans" feel content, about being poor and stupid.

Are slavery and racism products of capitalism?

 

[Serious]

Are slavery and racism products of capitalism?

Nah more like remnants. But I believe, that many preconceived notions originate from prejudice associations. Slavery and laws from the jim crow era, were merely tactics used to make the general population(whites) feel superior other races. All while diverting the attention from the affluent individuals who caking in stupid profits.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

America=5% of the worlds population
America=25% of the worlds PRISON population

highest incarceration rate in the world, not to mention the fact the prison industry is one of the biggest employers in the nation. Right behind Wal-Mart and McDonalds. It really bugs me that people dont see through the BS sometimes

The caption on this photo said, "prisoners picking cotton for 4 cents a hour" This was taken at Angola prison in Alabama, at the exact same place where there USED to be a slave plantation. No lie, people in chains still picking cotton at the same damn place.

 

[NSSVO]

don't do crimes... but that is irrational.

 

[zerozero]

America=5% of the worlds population
America=25% of the worlds PRISON population

highest incarceration rate in the world, not to mention the fact the prison industry is one of the biggest employers in the nation. Right behind Wal-Mart and McDonalds. It really bugs me that people dont see through the BS sometimes

The caption on this photo said, "prisoners picking cotton for 4 cents a hour" This was taken at Angola prison in Alabama, at the exact same place where there USED to be a slave plantation. No lie, people in chains still picking cotton at the same damn place.

you know, the US constitution still Okays slavery in this case

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[2]

 

[Rawtid]

On average it costs a state $60 per inmate, per day. She's definitely not doing "free labor", she's offsetting costs and I think they should pay her a lot more. If they are going to have dumb ass rule that locks up any and everyone, KNOWING the costs, then they can at least have those with more minor offenses work or be educated.