Florida sending police to homes of people who signed petitions to get abortion on the ballot to question them about "Election Fraud"

[Dr. Acula]

Test driving their gestapo tactics already.

DeSantis’ election police questioned people who signed abortion petitions

Two residents of Lee County said they were questioned at their homes about the validity of petition signatures.

www.tampabay.com

Isaac Menasche remembers being at the Cape Coral farmer’s market last year when someone asked him if he’d sign a petition to get Florida’s abortion amendment on the ballot.

He said yes — and he told a law enforcement officer as much when one showed up at the door of his Lee County home earlier this week.

Menasche said he was surprised when the plainclothes officer twice asked if it was really Menasche who had signed the petition. The officer said he was looking into potential petition fraud.

Though the officer was professional and courteous, Menasche, who has had little interaction with police in his life, said the encounter left him shaken.

“I’m not a person who is going out there protesting for abortion,” Menasche said. “I just felt strongly and I took the opportunity when the person asked me, to say yeah, I’ll sign that petition.”

The officer’s visit appears to be part of a broad — and unusual — effort by Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration to inspect thousands of already verified and validated petitions for Amendment 4 in the final two months before Election Day. The amendment would overturn Florida’s six-week abortion ban by proposing to protect abortion access in Florida until viability.

Since last week, DeSantis’ secretary of state has ordered elections supervisors in at least four counties to send to Tallahassee at least 36,000 petition forms already deemed to have been signed by real people. Since the Times first reported on this effort, Alachua and Broward counties have confirmed they also received requests from the state.

Menasche later posted on Facebook that it was “obvious to me that a significant effort was exerted to determine if indeed I had signed the petition.” He told the Times that the officer who showed up at his door had a copy of Menasche’s driver’s license and other documents related to him. Menasche said he does not recall which agency the officer was with.

Department of State spokesperson Ryan Ash said the agency has “uncovered evidence of illegal conduct with fraudulent petitions.”

“We have a duty to seek justice for Florida citizens who were victimized by fraud and safeguard the integrity of Florida’s elections,” Ash wrote in an email. “Our office will continue this investigation and make referrals to (the Florida Department of Law Enforcement) as appropriate.”

 

[mc_brew]

#bothsides .... don't vote for kamala, this is all her fault.... dems are worse than repubs but both are exactly the same....

kamala has been vp for 4 years, why didn't she fix this....?

#trump2024

 

[RickyDiBiase]

Coming soon to an HBCU near you.

 

[Wepa Man]

Live in Red States Brehs

 

[Geordi]

Sounds very Jim Crow-ish but #bothsides said black people were better under Jim Crow and segregation and we dont need to vote

 

[MajesticLion]

Papers, please

 

[Savvir]

The dems have the presidency. The executive branch would make these state/local police stop if they wanted.

#bothsides #tangibles

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

So white people being evil as always. Yet the majority of the replies in here bashing Black people!




I swear the coli is st0rmfr0nt.

 

[Afrodroid]

Live in amerikkka Brehs

ftfy

 

[Richard Glidewell]

Just tell them to kick rocks........I wouldn't even have answered the door..........contact my representative if you need an answer

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Florida was a solid red state for a while. Latest polls show that it's closer to being purple. Check out the senate.

Florida : U.S. Senate : 2024 Polls

The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

This maga shyt is broadly unpopular. If people vote in the midterms to boot out DeSantis, Florida could be blue and they could undo this bullshyt, access federal funds to improve schools and infrastructure and then secure a second win at the next election based off the gains made while whomever was in office.

 

[Neuromancer]

Live in Red States Brehs

Right. They will whataboutism all this while their states have damned gestapo

 

[Roger king]

This is straight up gestapo tactics and fascism regardless of your views on the issues, in a democracy people vote and decide on policy and that should be without fear or favour, desantis is pure evil , white supremacist filthy racist, his whole shtick when he was running for president was to insult black people and tell everyone slavery was a good thing to black people and they got ''skills'', you couldnt pay me enough money to live in that fascist hellhole called florida

 

[I Really Mean It]

So white people being evil as always. Yet the mahjority of the replies in here bashing Black people!




I swear the coli is st0rmfr0nt.

nah, we bash useful idiots in our community who are now working to make what desantis is doing a national reality.

 

[bnew]

The way Florida Republicans wrote the ballot for the abortion amendment

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No. 4 Constitutional Amendment​

Article I, New Section​

N.° 4 Enmienda Constitucional​

Artículo I, Nueva Sección​

Amendment to Limit Government Interference with Abortion​

No law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient's health, as determined by the patient's healthcare provider. This amendment does not change the Legislature's constitutional authority to require notification to a parent or guardian before a minor has an abortion.

The proposed amendment would result in significantly more abortions and fewer live births per year in Florida. The increase in abortions could be even greater if the amendment invalidates laws requiring parental consent before minors undergo abortions and those ensuring only licensed physicians perform abortions. There is also uncertainty about whether the amendment will require the state to subsidize abortions with public funds.

Litigation to resolve those and other uncertainties will result in additional costs to the state government and state courts that will negatively impact the state budget. An increase in abortions may negatively affect the growth of state and local revenues over time. Because the fiscal impact of increased abortions on state and local revenues and costs cannot be estimated with precision, the total impact of the proposed amendment is indeterminate.

THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THIS AMENDMENT CANNOT BE DETERMINED DUE TO AMBIGUITIES AND UNCERTAINTIES SURROUNDING THE AMENDMENT'S IMPACT.

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LLM served by Perplexity Labs

What the Amendment Says​

• Abortion Rights: The amendment states that no law can stop, punish, delay, or restrict abortions before a fetus is viable (can survive outside the womb) or if the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's health. This decision would be made by the patient's healthcare provider.
• Minor Abortions: The amendment does not change the power of the Legislature to require minors to notify their parents or guardians before having an abortion.

Potential Effects​

• Increase in Abortions: If this amendment passes, it could lead to more abortions and fewer live births in Florida.
• Parental Consent and Licensed Physicians: If this amendment invalidates laws requiring parental consent for minors and ensuring only licensed physicians perform abortions, it could lead to even more abortions.
• Public Funding: There is uncertainty about whether the state would have to use public funds to pay for abortions.

Financial and Legal Impacts​

• Litigation Costs: There will likely be legal battles to clarify some of these uncertainties, which will cost money for both the state government and state courts. This could negatively impact the state budget.
• Revenue Impact: An increase in abortions might affect how much money the state and local governments make over time. However, it's hard to predict exactly how much of an impact this would have.
• Total Financial Impact: Because there are many unknowns about how this amendment would work in practice, it's impossible to determine its full financial impact.

Summary​

In summary:

• The amendment aims to protect access to abortion under certain conditions.
• It may lead to more abortions and fewer live births.
• There are uncertainties about parental consent laws and public funding.
• Legal battles will add costs.
• The overall financial effect on state and local revenues is unclear.

Key Point: The financial impact of this amendment cannot be precisely determined due to various ambiguities and uncertainties surrounding its implementation.

Position Based on Stance​

Pro-Choice Perspective:​

If you are pro-choice, you likely support a woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. This amendment aligns with those values by protecting access to abortion before viability or when necessary for health reasons. Therefore, you would likely say "Yah" to this amendment.

Pro-Life Perspective:​

If you are pro-life, you likely believe that life begins at conception and oppose abortion. This amendment would increase access to abortion, which goes against your beliefs. Therefore, you would likely say "Nah" to this amendment. In conclusion:

• Pro-Choice: Yah
• Pro-Life: Nah