finally watched The Master

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Yea the acting and the directing were amazing but the story was kind of pointless imo. PIGfukk
 

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Freaky, just watched this yesterday (for the 1st time) its beautifully shot and the 2 leads are phenomenal. I just wish I wasnt told it was the best thing since slice bread cuz it didnt feel like it.It takes a while to get into but once you do its engaging but I have to say I didnt get it, it just seemed like a long winded bromance with some master and slave/hypocrisy of religion sprinkled in. I mean take the ending phoenix character runs away, has a dream of lancaster asking him to come to london for a cure. Goes to london only to refuse lancaster offer to rejoin the cause? :why: did he just wish to say goodbye officially? I thought he was suppose to be off kilter..

ps phoenix performance was ok but doesnt anyone get the sense what he did gets overated because his appearance? its the ole bale gimmick
 

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It's a wonderful film, though slightly unfocused and dreamlike.

It touched on several very interesting concepts and ideas but nothing was ever too concrete.

How I read it is that it was simply a portrait of Americans trying to make sense of the world after WWII and along with that it was a love story. :yeshrug:
 
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It's a wonderful film, though slightly unfocused and dreamlike.

It touched on severaly very interesting concepts and ideas but nothing was ever too concrete.

How I read it is that it was simply a portrait of Americans trying to make sense of the world after WWII and along with that it was a love story. :yeshrug:
For me the story was just background noise.



It was a character study that can easily be used as a template to view modern figures.



While I was watching I kept thinking of this quote.


If the world is something you accept rather than interpret, then you’re susceptible to the influence of charismatic idiots.
Neil deGrasse Tyson
 

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For me the story was just background noise.



It was a character study that can easily be used as a template to view modern figures.



While I was watching I kept thinking of this quote.


If the world is something you accept rather than interpret, then you’re susceptible to the influence of charismatic idiots.
Neil deGrasse Tyson
:krs:
 

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The film was also a not so subtle reflection of scientology.


PSH's processing questions are very much in line with the questionaire that you take at a scientology centre.


A friend of mine who's a psychology student went with classmates to the scientology centre in my city. I tagged along out of curiousity. They pretty much told all of us in our seperate interviews we were depressed and they could cure us. For money of course.


It's pretty easy to see how they prey on broken people like Joaquin's character.
 

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The interesting thing is though that I don't think PTA was trying to make a film that critiqued or exposed scientology. Scientology and Hubbard specifically were the jumping point into the story and the greatest influence but I think it's less concerned with attacking religions/cults/faith and more interested in the central relationship between Freddie and Dodd. I really liked how PTA didn't portray Dodd as some kinda sinister crook, which would've been easy to do. But Dodd whilst clearly a fraud and making shyt up as he goes long, is kinda likable and in some weird way I think he believe what he was doing was helping people. He was misguided and somewhat of an egomaniac but certainly not a one dimmensional L Ron Hubbard cypher. Of course some of that is also down to the gawd Hoffman's incredible performance. A lesser actor would've played it much more straight forward.

On the real though I still can't bring myself to watch any of Hoffman's films since his death. shyt is depressing to watch a talent like that go out that way.
 

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The interesting thing is though that I don't think PTA was trying to make a film that critiqued or exposed scientology. Scientology and Hubbard specifically were the jumping point into the story and the greatest influence but I think it's less concerned with attacking religions/cults/faith and more interested in the central relationship between Freddie and Dodd. I really liked how PTA didn't portray Dodd as some kinda sinister crook, which would've been easy to do. But Dodd whilst clearly a fraud and making shyt up as he goes long, is kinda likable and in some weird way I think he believe what he was doing was helping people. He was misguided and somewhat of an egomaniac but certainly not a one dimmensional L Ron Hubbard cypher. Of course some of that is also down to the gawd Hoffman's incredible performance. A lesser actor would've played it much more straight forward.

On the real though I still can't bring myself to watch any of Hoffman's films since his death. shyt is depressing to watch a talent like that go out that way.
True story a friend of mine is in the actors union as an extra in movies, done a few commercials.


Anyway he was on the set of a movie starring hoffman.


The director was being abusive towards the extras. Hoffman stopped the director and told him to treat them as equals or he'd walk. Then he took all the extras out to dinner.
 

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Paul Thomas Anderson has no duds in his filmography...dude is really the greatest director working today in terms of the quality of his films
 
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