Fat Joe Claims "All Music Is African" & Says Caribbean Latinos Are Black

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

Of course y’all exempt, especially Trini folks. But Spanish speaking Caribbeans be bragging on they food like it got taste.

Dominican and Rican women be seasoning they food like black folks lightweight

 

[Akae Beka]

Spanish Caribbean folks got their no seasoning from the Spanish

The rest of th Caribbean can cook lol

Can't agree with this one. I'm not hispanic but Puerto Rican food is well seasoned and they're known for the amount of Adobo and Sazon they put in the food. I've eaten authentic Rican food on the island and in the Virgin Islands (And NY too). Shyt has always been delicious. Their red beans game is

Spanish Caribbean folks got their no seasoning from the Spanish

The rest of th Caribbean can cook lol

Biased ass statement but I'd say Caribbean people food taste better any other groups of Africans and that's partly due to the environment and soil that produce the correct ingredients

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Spanish Caribbean folks got their no seasoning from the Spanish

The rest of th Caribbean can cook lol

Dominican food is good(especially their stew chicken) and there is seasoning. Now best in the Caribbean? I don't know about that. Haven't tried Cuban food like that yet. Puerto Rican food is okayish.

 

[Elle Driver]

Dominican and Rican women be seasoning they food like black folks lightweight

It taste mad bland to me.

 

[BigMan]

@Elle Driver @Dip wait a got damn minute now family we gon act like jamaicans and trini ain't get their spices from all that hindu and mr.chin in they family tree? Haitians cook the best out of everyone cuz of that French influence too cuz West African food aint that damn spicy, certainly more than Latino tho lol

Scotch bonnet ain’t from mr chin lol

 

[kingofnyc]

maybe its the spicy latina p8ssy thats putting the melt in the melting pot of nyc for ya'. or maybe its the cold east coast winters thats forcing the blacks and afro latinos to "huddle up" and come together, bcuz back home and closer to the equator things are a lot different between the two groups. ill just drop this off here

again you’re not making any sense Haiti and Dominican Republic is not strictly about race
maybe you haven’t gotten the news but Dominicans are 2nd behind Brazilian in African blood lineage from all Latin America countries

shyt is more about social status, politics, history and culture - It’s incredibly similar to Israel where you have 2 different types of peoples Israelis and Palestinians that supposed to share the same land but the 2 groups whole ideology is completely different

 

[kingofnyc]

This dude is obsessed with trying to claim Spanish’s as black.

He just don’t want his self hate to make him look like a c00n.

Like dude think because some latinos are of African descent then that extends to the entire demographic. That'd be like someone claiming obvious Indian descent Trinidadians as black because there's other African descent people there.

It’s only because he prefers Latin women and doesn’t want to feel like a c00n.

It’s like the neo nazis who can’t cure their list for Asian women and start calling them honorary aryans.

It has nothing to do with history or sociology... it’s his Latina obsession. This is like the 10th thread for him

these bama nikkaz


I just never understood how could somebody have a complete negative view of a group of people that you never met ; never had a conversation with ; never had any type of relationship with
shyt is kinda pathetic


but do you

 

[Cadillac]

Right cuz the flip side is a white Cuban or puerto rican is never more than 3 or 4 generations removed from a black person. We literally have a saying that goes if you aint got congo in you got carabali meaning everybody got SOME of africa in there somewhere. But the flip side is you do also have black cubans and puerto ricans claiming to be 'spanish' and not claiming blackness at all. Its not a big deal for dark skin nikkas to relax their hair and dye it blonde over there, something that would get u ridiculed here just like bleach cream. Everybody is mixed just different degrees they identify differently thats why i don't believe the stats on cuba or pr cuz you gotta go with your own two eyes and see it, they nikkas and if theyre white white they act like nikkas and marry black women

This how I see it

Not to be anti-stats but populations - stats - and Caribbean/Latin America is such a tricky combination

You have to experience imo

Because how y'all label yourselves down there is night and day from us

 

[Kilgore Trout]

these bama nikkaz


I just never understood how could somebody have a complete negative view of a group of people that you never met ; never had a conversation with ; never had any type of relationship with
shyt is kinda pathetic


but do you

Pawg in peace

 

[Scientific]

how i'm generalizing when
its historical fact that less then 1% of the west african slaves from the TransAtlantic Slave Trade went to Central America/Mexico
while
nearly 50% of dem slaves went to the Caribbean

how i'm generalizing
when its DNA data states that African blood from the average Mexicans is 2%
while
the average Puerto Rican is 20%





your name is Scientific but you seem to not care about FACTS !!!

The fact is we see statistics differently. You're using flawed logic on averages. You & I agree on the same thing, but interpret it very differently. What I'm telling you that there are parts of Mexico where the population can have the same % of African roots, your rebuttal is that the overall population doesn't have any. My entire point is you can encounter a Mexican with the exact same lineage as a PR or Cuban. They exist.

You're picking & choosing the numbers to fit your narrative. Which is fine, but many Mexicans from Veracruz are no different than other Carribean Latinos. Even their accent is influenced by carribean Spanish.

 

[Fatboi1]

these bama nikkaz


I just never understood how could somebody have a complete negative view of a group of people that you never met ; never had a conversation with ; never had any type of relationship with
shyt is kinda pathetic


but do you

What the hell does saying "all latinos" aren't black or of significant African ancestry have to do with "negative" views? I never said anything "negative" about any one here. I just said your was trying to lump anyone from a country that has some African ancestry in them with all blacks because you're clearly obsessed with the women.

For example:

Leidy Solis from Columbia=clearly black

These people regardless of what latin american country they from are clearly black.

What you're doing is going "gee there was slaves there so therefore all those folks are clearly black because _____ has 20% African ancestry!!!"

In your mind these folks

Are all just as black as the ones above.

The fault in your logic is you assume the ancestry is equal among everyone.

Someone like this for example is Haitian:

doesn't mean all haitians may have the same ancestry as her. The region one is from can have completely different ancestry.
There's polish Haitians that if they took DNA test they'd be have less African ancestry than other haitians but that wouldn't make them representative of the entire island.

Not all people from Ayiti(the entire island) is one people from the same place. I know a few Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and cubans and they're all very different.

 

[Fatboi1]

shyt is more about social status, politics, history and culture

U are completely lacking in knowledge of this. Dominican social status? Wtf are you talking about?

The government’s attempts to isolate Haitian immigrants and their children only increased when one of the architects of anti-Haitian ideology, Joaquin Balaguer, was elected to the presidency in 1966. Balaguer instituted policies that allowed Haitian immigrants to reside solely on plantations and to only work cutting sugar cane. At the beginning of each sugar cane harvest the army and National Police would search the country for Haitians and relocate them to plantations involuntarily, even if they possessed legal documentation. In addition, immigrants found without documentation were often forced onto a plantation, without the government regularizing their status. In the process, the legality of Haitian immigrants in the eyes of the Dominican state became untethered from documentation and only based on location and occupation. Both Trujillo and Balaguer believed that if Haitians could be contained on plantations they could contribute to the wealth of the Dominican nation without ever being acknowledged as part of it. While the majority of Dominicans are of African descent, Balaguer argued that after the decimation of the island’s indigenous population the Dominican Republic was repopulated by white Spaniards. According to him, African characteristics in the Dominican population were a result of Haitian infiltration of the Dominican Republic. Because of his fear of racial “contamination”, Balaguer became increasingly concerned about Dominicans born to Haitian parents. In the 1970s he commissioned several investigations into the issue, and numerous government officials informed him that the government could not deport Dominican-Haitians, because, having been born in the Dominican Republic, they were constitutionally Dominican citizens. However, born on plantations far away from medical care, many never received official birth certificates.

Similar to the way blacks and whites have been represented as polar opposites in US racial ideology, Dominicans and Haitians have been presented as polar – racial and cultural – opposites in antihaitianismo ideology; thus, to be Dominican means to be not Haitian, and especially not black.

In the summer of 2007, during a trip to Santo Domingo, I saw firsthand how antihaitianismo has permeated Dominican culture and identity, particularly the thoughts of some dark-skinned Dominicans. While my friend and I were vacationing in the Dominican Republic, we met a dark-skinned Dominican waiter who spoke English. He served as a useful resource guide for us, providing information about good places to eat and shop, about the history of the city, and about the racial identity of Dominicans. Although he was very dark, with skin darker than mine (a self-identified brown-skinned black person), this Dominican waiter self-identified as indio. “The fact that Hispaniola was… the first place to import enslaved Africans, thus becoming what Torres-Saillant has called the ‘cradle of blackness in the Americas’” (Candelario 2007) pushed us to ask him whether or not he believed Dominicans had African ancestry. He replied that Dominicans are a mix of the Spanish, African slaves, and the Taino Indians, but stated that Dominicans are indios and not black. His assertion is a good example of how antihaitianismo has influenced the thoughts of dark-skinned Dominicans. At the Museo del Hombre Dominicano we saw how the idea of being indio has been emphasized in Dominican culture and history. The exhibit on the origins of the Dominican people was filled with information on and images of Taino Indians. There was some information on the Spanish, but very few references to the country’s African heritage.

The Stigma of Blackness: Anti-Haitianism in the Dominican Republic | Socialism and Democracy

"nah man it's just politics and culture, not race."

Of course I gotta be super clear, not all Dominicans think like this but the fact that there are some clearly black Dominicans claiming they're indio and not black is testament to how anti-black their dislike of Haitians is.

 

[kingofnyc]

Pawg in peace

i'm not into white women

so that cant be about me !!!!

 

[kingofnyc]

The fact is we see statistics differently. You're using flawed logic on averages. You & I agree on the same thing, but interpret it very differently. What I'm telling you that there are parts of Mexico where the population can have the same % of African roots, your rebuttal is that the overall population doesn't have any. My entire point is you can encounter a Mexican with the exact same lineage as a PR or Cuban. They exist.

You're picking & choosing the numbers to fit your narrative. Which is fine, but many Mexicans from Veracruz are no different than other Carribean Latinos. Even their accent is influenced by carribean Spanish.

Is no issue between us its just regular conversation but I find it incredibly disingenuous by you stating I am the one that’s picking in choosing because all I’m doing is giving you the overall make up of the of two countries and it seems like you don’t want to acknowledge that which is completely factual


you are the one who picked & chose a particular Mexican group that supposedly has African roots and used Tony Touch whom is one of the lightest Ricans out as your example because it suit your narrative -with that said- I’ll still take TT over said Mexican African DNA any day (because complexion hair texture & eye color doesn’t determine ones race)

 

[Kilgore Trout]

i'm not into white women

so that cant be about me !!!!

Latinas are white