Even though Spence had me rolling last night, YOU KNEW Crawford wasnt gonna take that lying down

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You can't just mention politics as a realistic factor in boxing then turn around and mock him on some "let's see who you have fought a year from now" as if politics suddenly wouldn't matter and its his fault that he can't fight the Porters, Garcias and Thurmans.

Crawford should go try to get that Pac fight or Brook imo
ESPN has money to throw around, Brook said he can make 147 for the right fight
 

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They both barking and won’t end up fighting.

But Crawford really has no response, Spence was 100% right. Crawford hasn’t fought anyone.
 

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They both barking and won’t end up fighting.

But Crawford really has no response, Spence was 100% right. Crawford hasn’t fought anyone.
We heard this and I know why he's saying so even if he's exaggerating but I never understood what comes out of this.

So he hasn't fought elite dudes

Were elite dudes around in 135 and 140 when he fought in them? Not really.
Are they around now? Yeah but Spence himself said politics are reality in boxing and Crawford is on the wring side.
So after we cleared all that up what's the point in criticising him for not fighting elite opponents if it's not his fault?

Critiquing someone for something he can't do nothing about is lame.
 

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We heard this and I know why he's saying so even if he's exaggerating but I never understood what comes out of this.

So he hasn't fought elite dudes

Were elite dudes around in 135 and 140 when he fought in them? Not really.
Are they around now? Yeah but Spence himself said politics are reality in boxing and Crawford is on the wring side.
So after we cleared all that up what's the point in criticising him for not fighting elite opponents if it's not his fault?

Critiquing someone for something he can't do nothing about is lame.

So what are we supposed to do, give him a free pass?
 

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So what are we supposed to do, give him a free pass?
if it's not his fault then it's the right thing to do :yeshrug: he can't create elite opponents for himself from clay can he... then he moves up to 147 and the other dude basically confirms what we all knew anyway... that politics matter and he isn't looking to fight Crawford

Idk what Crawford can do after that...
 

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We heard this and I know why he's saying so even if he's exaggerating but I never understood what comes out of this.

So he hasn't fought elite dudes

Were elite dudes around in 135 and 140 when he fought in them? Not really.
Are they around now? Yeah but Spence himself said politics are reality in boxing and Crawford is on the wring side.
So after we cleared all that up what's the point in criticising him for not fighting elite opponents if it's not his fault?

Critiquing someone for something he can't do nothing about is lame.
Crawford’s the one saying hey I’m just as good as you, but has nothing to prove that on. Unless you include beating up Indongo Postol and Burns
 

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Crawford’s the one saying hey I’m just as good as you, but has nothing to prove that on. Unless you include beating up Indongo Postol and Burns
I'm not talking about how Crawford is reacting to criticism now. but why would he need proof to say that btw? Many times we've seen fighters saying they are as good or better than the other without proof and then later they either be proven right or wring or sometimes nothing happens. That's just the standard shyt from boxers.
Besides that Crawford has things to fall back on too if not the names he beat then the fact that basically every ranking has him as top 1-3 P4P. He probably doesn't think everybody is wrong lol.
 

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ill never understand what spence is talking about not fighting on espn....espn has more visibility than showtime and possibly more money to throw around lol
Some Haymon fighters like him and Broner are on this wave that they are some kind of a team and the other networks/promoters are the other teams even if those guys don't really consider themselves as a team mostly. Like it would be team sport. So it's some kind of an identity question too at this point not just money imo. That's why you hear them saying they never gonna fight here and there, they want to show Haymon and Showtime loyalty this way. It's good that Showtime created an atmosphere where all these dudes are there at big events and they are interacting each other and all, that's good, the disadvantage of it is this, some start to think with this team sport like logic and saying shyt like they never gonna appear on other channels cause they are thinking about themselves as a team and become too invested with the current environment emotionally.

I might be wrong though but that's my idea.

I trust in Spence's common sense though and I hope that once they reach the point when they can unify all 4 belts he won't be on the "I doN't fight at ESPN" shyt if ESPn would be the channel who offers more for the fight.
They probably would have to work out some co-channel, PPV type of shyt either way but if not imo it should be wherever they pay more for it. If it's Haymon with Sho/Fox then there if it's Arum with ESPN then there, both fighters should only care about who's offering more.
 

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Neither one of these dudes wanna fight right now. They asked Errol during the fight and he said well I want mikey ,porter ,and something else. Crawford trainer said the same with Benavidez and fulfilling mandatories first before spence.

At the End of 2019 is supposed to be the target date, but i'll believe when I see it.

Neither one is a ppv star and no one knows these dudes outside of boxing. They need to stop the A side talk and fight.
 
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Dude was drunk and overweight(I've never seen him that big before). Not a good look for a supposed top athlete.
He did look swollen :lolbron:. I think Spence walks around at a much heavier weight (+15-20 lbs) when not training though, kind of like Canelo. Its not uncommon.:yeshrug:
 
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