European fat composition was inherited from the Neanderthals.

[Camile.Bidan]

http://news.sciencemag.org/archaeology/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Neandertals and modern Europeans had something in common: They were fatheads of the same ilk. A new genetic analysis reveals that our brawny cousins had a number of distinct genes involved in the buildup of certain types of fat in their brains and other tissues—a trait shared by today’s Europeans, but not Asians. Because two-thirds of our brains are built of fatty acids, or lipids, the differences in fat composition between Europeans and Asians might have functional consequences, perhaps in helping them adapt to colder climates or causing metabolic diseases.

Journal Article
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/140401/ncomms4584/full/ncomms4584.html

To me, I have always noticed that White people and Black people store fat differently. White people tend to store more fat in their legs (uniformly) and mid section. Blacks tend to store fat more in their mid-section and their butt and thighs (as opposed to their entire leg like Whites). It is more noticeable in the Women.

But, This pattern holds true for all Western Asians, and not just European. The study didn't compare this to other West Asians, South Asians or Melanesians (who seem to have a similar fat distribution).

I think we are on the cusp of proving what I thought was the truth for the last 10 years. Caucasiods (Whites, Arabs, South Asians) are hybrids of an Out-of-African population and an extinct Western Eurasian hominid. Asians are a hybrid of same creatures and then a further Hominid that existed in Eastern Asia. Central Asia was the homeland for both of these hybrids

 

[godkiller]

1. Contrary to what you think and what "seems" true to you, studies indicate Asians and whites don't have the same or similar fat distribution, pattern or body composition as Europeans:

- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19203416
"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups."

- http://researchonline.lshtm.ac.uk/682302/
"South Asians are susceptible to insulin resistance even without obesity. We examined the characteristics of body fat content, distribution and function in South Asian men and their relationships to insulin resistance compared to Caucasians."

Compared to Caucasians, in spite of similar BMI, South Asians had higher total body fat (22±6 and 15±4% of body weight; p-value<0.0001), higher SA fat (3.5±1.9 and 2.2±1.3 kg, respectively; p-value = 0.004), but no differences in IP fat (1.0±0.5 and 1.0±0.7 kg, respectively; p-value = 0.4). SA adipocyte cell size was significantly higher in South Asians (3491±1393 and 1648±864 µm2; p-value = 0.0001) and was inversely correlated with both glucose disposal rate (r-value = −0.57; p-value = 0.0008) and plasma adiponectin concentrations (r-value = −0.71; p-value<0.0001). Adipocyte size differences persisted even when SA was matched between South Asians and Caucasians.

2. As an example, the visceral differences between Cacs and South Asians--which include "fat distribution, muscularity, bone mass and leg length"-- presuppose the two groups are not of the same race, which makes your attempt to group them into your own cac group a fialure. Members of the same race or ethnic group tend to have similar physiological, mental and other averages. Since it is clear Arabs, cacs and South Asians have different said averages (i.e. cacs have similar averages), this implies South Asians and Arabs are of a different race (or at least different enough in key senses to group them differently).

3. The research implies that Asians' morphology and fat distribution have nothing to do with European's Neanderthal genes (because Asians don't have them). In fact the research doesn't even prove the Neanderthal account for European fat outcomes (whether distribution, concentration, etc). There are no stated correlations between Neanderthal fat gene preponderance and real outcomes. There is also no control for Europeans' human genes accounting for their difference in fat distribution and morphology, just it is assumed human genes account for minority groups. Your theory derives no support from this piece of research, and uses faulty premises to prove a faulty argument. You're a bad racialist buffoon.

 

[Camile.Bidan]

1. Contrary to what you think and what "seems" true to you, studies don't indicate Asians and whites don't have the same or similar fat distribution, pattern or body composition as Europeans:

- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19203416
"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups."

- http://researchonline.lshtm.ac.uk/682302/
"South Asians are susceptible to insulin resistance even without obesity. We examined the characteristics of body fat content, distribution and function in South Asian men and their relationships to insulin resistance compared to Caucasians."

Compared to Caucasians, in spite of similar BMI, South Asians had higher total body fat (22±6 and 15±4% of body weight; p-value<0.0001), higher SA fat (3.5±1.9 and 2.2±1.3 kg, respectively; p-value = 0.004), but no differences in IP fat (1.0±0.5 and 1.0±0.7 kg, respectively; p-value = 0.4). SA adipocyte cell size was significantly higher in South Asians (3491±1393 and 1648±864 µm2; p-value = 0.0001) and was inversely correlated with both glucose disposal rate (r-value = −0.57; p-value = 0.0008) and plasma adiponectin concentrations (r-value = −0.71; p-value<0.0001). Adipocyte size differences persisted even when SA was matched between South Asians and Caucasians.

2. As an example, the visceral differences between Cacs and South Asians--which include "fat distribution, muscularity, bone mass and leg length"-- presuppose the two groups are not of the same race, which makes your attempt to group them into your own cac group a fialure. Members of the same race or ethnic group tend to have similar physiological, mental and other averages. Since it is clear Arabs, cacs and South Asians have different said averages (i.e. cacs have similar averages), this implies South Asians and Arabs are of a different race (or at least different enough in key senses to group them differently).

Interesting. I never looked into the data regarding the differences between South Asians and Europeans.
Thanks for the info.


I see similarities between there bone structure, and the Indian Languages are connected to European languages. then R1a is found in both South Asia and Eastern Europe. But, they definitely seem to have different body fat stores. At least from the studies that you have provided.

But, maybe Indians benefited from the same processes that gave the Europeans their advantages genes. Perhaps South Asians took beneficial genes from the ASI population. I have darkskin and other physical features of Australiod people (heavy brow/ beard/ recessed chin/ Mid facial projection), and most tests show that I have about 5-10% ASI or Papuan genes in my own DNA. I am a South East Asian BTW

3. The research implies that Asians' morphology and fat distribution have nothing to do with European's Neanderthal genes (because Asians don't have them). In fact the research doesn't even prove the Neanderthal account for European fat outcomes (whether distribution, concentration, etc). There are no stated correlations between Neanderthal fat gene preponderance and real outcomes. There is also no control for Europeans' human genes accounting for their difference in fat distribution and morphology, just it is assumed human genes account for minority groups. Your theory derives no support from this piece of research, and uses faulty premises to prove a faulty argument. You're a bad racialist buffoon.

Yes, there are no correlations between the genes and real outcomes, but they know the function of the genes already from some other process.

We show that genetic variants shared between modern humans and Neanderthals, but distinct from chimpanzees, are specifically enriched in genes involved in lipid catabolism in contemporary humans of European, but not East Asian descent. Excess of Neanderthal variants in lipid catabolism genes was further associated with signatures of recent positive selection. To assess whether Neanderthal variants resulted in adaptive lipid catabolism changes specific to Europeans, we measured lipidome and transcriptome compositions of the brain tissue in contemporary humans of European, East Asian and African descent, as well as in chimpanzees representing the ancestral state. In agreement with observations made at the genome level, we show significant excess of lipid concentration and gene expression divergence in lipid catabolism pathways in Europeans, but not the other population groups. Furthermore, lipid catabolism genes showing increased expression divergence in Europeans contain an even higher proportion of Neanderthal sites than other lipid catabolism genes. Taken together, these observations indicate that lipid catabolism of contemporary Europeans was partially shaped by the genetic variants shared with Neanderthals. We further speculate that these variants provided European ancestors with adaptations to the geographic environment where Neanderthals had evolved and where Neanderthals and archaic Europeans later coexisted.

Looks like they already knew that these particular genes are involved in Lipid Catabolism. Sure, not necessary Fat stores and Body composition, which was a leap that I made myself, which I thought was pretty apparent. You are welcome to criticize me for making leaps like that, and I welcome that because I want to be told that I am wrong, that way, I can learn.

 

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So since cacs have admitted they're Neanderthals, can we throw them in the bushes ?

 

[MostReal]

I keep telling yall where these guys come from but nobody wants to believe me