EST Gee was a college football player...

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...who went to private school, graduated high school on time and got an invite to the NFL Combine...

This is part of the issue I've said over the last few years that I have with The Culture. The glorification of the streets over other aspects of Black Culture, this dude could talk about a number of different parts of his story but it's drugs and shootings track after track...

I've mentioned this in the past, so I'll say this again to be patently clear:

This doesn't invalidate the street experiences he did have, and of course I do think he's had experience. What it does though is invalidate his "lifetime of hustling" and running the streets imagery he's portrayed on wax and in interviews...

There were dudes in high school who played sports who got into affiliating with aspects of the streets but the successful prep athletes are never the ones who are in it deep. The amount of high school aged cats who in it deep are a minority anyway, but the ones who go on to play in college have a certain amount of time and commitments to make to achieve that success...

So you're not doing nothing outside on any real level AND maintaining all your commitments and responsibilities to be a successful prep athlete with scholarship offers, let's put aside the fact a teenager isn't gonna have the wherewithal or emotional advancement to juggle being equally successful in both...

So he wasnt doing anything outside that was noteworthy as a teenager...

Alota dudes get in college and start moonlighting or get introduced to the streets. This dude went to two different universities because he transferred, not because he was kicked out or expelled or anything like that. So he wasn't putting in the same energy outside that he was on the field and in his academics, and when he finally dropped out it was voluntary but not before a Combine invite...

So dude's story is pretty obvious, he wasn't quite good enough to make The League and likely had already been dabbling around so he enhanced his contacts outside and went that route...

I just wish we were more honest about our roads to success. And yes, because of my own story, I dont view cats who "come of age" in the streets at college age or later as the same as those who were with it and active younger and devoted entire periods of their lives to it, don't give a damn how much money cats touched...

I'm 5 years older than fam but at the same age homie was perfecting his crafts to go to college, I was working on dropping out and fukking around outside. At the same age he went to college I'd already been in prison a year, when fam got his Combine invite I was yet again fighting another case...

Gee makes decent music, a little redundant but he's pretty good. But here's another rapper added to the list of late bloomers and dudes who aren't as authentic as they portray...
 

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...who went to private school, graduated high school on time and got an invite to the NFL Combine...

This is part of the issue I've said over the last few years that I have with The Culture. The glorification of the streets over other aspects of Black Culture, this dude could talk about a number of different parts of his story but it's drugs and shootings track after track...

I've mentioned this in the past, so I'll say this again to be patently clear:

This doesn't invalidate the street experiences he did have, and of course I do think he's had experience. What it does though is invalidate his "lifetime of hustling" and running the streets imagery he's portrayed on wax and in interviews...

There were dudes in high school who played sports who got into affiliating with aspects of the streets but the successful prep athletes are never the ones who are in it deep. The amount of high school aged cats who in it deep are a minority anyway, but the ones who go on to play in college have a certain amount of time and commitments to make to achieve that success...

So you're not doing nothing outside on any real level AND maintaining all your commitments and responsibilities to be a successful prep athlete with scholarship offers, let's put aside the fact a teenager isn't gonna have the wherewithal or emotional advancement to juggle being equally successful in both...

So he wasnt doing anything outside that was noteworthy as a teenager...

Alota dudes get in college and start moonlighting or get introduced to the streets. This dude went to two different universities because he transferred, not because he was kicked out or expelled or anything like that. So he wasn't putting in the same energy outside that he was on the field and in his academics, and when he finally dropped out it was voluntary but not before a Combine invite...

So dude's story is pretty obvious, he wasn't quite good enough to make The League and likely had already been dabbling around so he enhanced his contacts outside and went that route...

I just wish we were more honest about our roads to success. And yes, because of my own story, I dont view cats who "come of age" in the streets at college age or later as the same as those who were with it and active younger and devoted entire periods of their lives to it, don't give a damn how much money cats touched...

I'm 5 years older than fam but at the same age homie was perfecting his crafts to go to college, I was working on dropping out and fukking around outside. At the same age he went to college I'd already been in prison a year, when fam got his Combine invite I was yet again fighting another case...

Gee makes decent music, a little redundant but he's pretty good. But here's another rapper added to the list of late bloomers and dudes who aren't as authentic as they portray...
tobe nwigwe


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was headed to the nfl... had a major foot injury...

he is positive ...what u look 4 in est gee... its actually tobe....


don't get me wrong... run up on tobe if u want too...for the most part he is peaceful..enjoy his family..erykah badu n beyonce lol

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You can play football and be in the streets. Netflix has an entire documentary series about this
end up like big pokey.,,

pokey played on o-line n d-line and was a kicked....won state titles... went juco didn't take the test serious....won titles at juco...

was ready to transfer to a hbcu... streets called em....back n forth to Yellowstone...screw hit..became a hood star with screw tapes on campus...said fukk the game n got in the game
 

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I never knew student athletes were all saints and outstanding law abiding citizens

the screening process must be real :whew:
houston had a grip of legit street cats that were legit athletes.... but were drank bandits..n hustlers..lol

the grace brothers...carlos grace ...willowridge...basketball...state champ...arizona state .... followed his brother fukk ups...

charles grace williowridge baseball...signed with the Chicago white sox in high school...started hustlin pints n gallons of drank...


riff raff ..went to langham creek throwed hooper...got in some shyt parents took em to Minnesota...got in shyt up there....hibbiings college... brought ass back to greenpoint ..paintin slabs ..rap game chris mullin lol
 

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I get what O/P is saying. It’s one thing to be a knucklehead/ cant get right in the hood. But acting like you’re a certified stepper/ og when there’s a whole other shyt you can rap about is corny :francis:

I mean, that literally applies to all these nikkas tho. All these dudes know better for the most part, but still put the same content out.

It's to a point where we need to accept that a lot of these rappers are selling fantasies. They have no morals and there's no reason to believe they'll magically gain any after having access to all the money, cars, clothes, jewelry, and hoes they want. It's not their job to live up to our expectations of what we think the music should sound like, and at the end of the day you don't have to listen. It is what it is.
 
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You're not a successful prep athlete with scholarship offers and putting that same energy into yhe streets, so nah...

Marvin Harrison was an elite athlete his whole life way better than est gee and people talk about him like J Prince

you not a street nikka, so you can't check anybody

if nobody from kentucky is calling him out or people who know him are calling him fake, how can you make any assumptions

the nikka really don't rap about shyt other than basic hood shyt anybody can do

anybody can sell drugs, anybody bust a gun and kill someone or rob someone

you don't need any type of special pedigree to do any of this shyt you just have to want to do it

Blace Icewood is the Detroit 2pac and he from a suburb called southfield, his pops was a big time dope dealer so he was raised in the game
 

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Bro there’s plenty of dudes who went to school and still be involved in street shyt. There’s plenty of great athletes who are still involved in street shyt.

Sometimes it’s just in nikkas. Tobe and EST are the perfect ying and yang. It is what it is.

gee is a rapper lol he’s going to exaggerate like every other rapper. It’s his job but like another poster said if them dudes in Kentucky ain’t pull his card then he’s obviously good up there
 
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As far as content goes not just rappers but every other artists is gonna do whatever style that’s popping cause at the end of the day everybody is trying to make money.

if people really supported different types of rap music then more nikkas would do it. America in general loves gangsta shyt. These white kids love the shyt so much they have 63rd vs O block tournaments and shyt. The majority support ignorance so people will do ignorant shyt for the views and money that come with it

I don’t like that shyt just like you don’t cause being someone whose actually been shot at and lost family members to dumb shyt it’s tiring

but it is what it is I don’t know how to fix it most of us don’t
 
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