Epstein Thread: His brother says Barr cover up; Scumbag Alan Dershowitz asked Trump to pardon Maxwell; Epstein commits suicide! :damn:

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People are losing perspective, and going into the abyss already. Let the standing charges process, and stay with that. It's good to know all the info, but some of us get caught in these fantasy scenarios, it's like fan fiction at some points. Epstein wasn't let go by the Department of Justice, a US Attorney made a deal, (yes, a disgraceful one) for some mostly known and some slightly unknown reasons. This isn't "No Way Out" or "The Art Of War" (1999 Wesley Snipes thriller lol)

A lot of people don't get it, like you can indict someone with a grand jury, and the charges will get torn up at trial, by the right team of attorneys. It isn't as clear cut as the average human rationale would like it to be. They always want a vast, (yet easy to piece together on Twitter) conspiracy, with bad guys and good guys. The world doesn't work like that.
 
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People are losing perspective, and going into the abyss already. Let the standing charges process, and stay with that. It's good to know all the info, but some of us get caught in these fantasy scenarios, it's like fan fiction at some points. Epstein wasn't let go by the Department of Justice, a US Attorney made a deal, for some mostly known and some slightly unknown reasons. This isn't "No Way Out" or "The Art Of War" (1999 Wesley Snipes thriller lol)

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There is real truth to that, the local authorities botched the case so badly, the FBI got involved in the final hour and wrote up a draft indictment, a case like this would rarely if never be prosecuted at the federal level, esp. back before human trafficking/pimping became a target for federal prosectors. The state wasn't going to pursue any charges, from what I remember from the book. That burned the FBI so much, they tried to rectify it, and Acosta couldn't or wouldn't bring it home.

Palm Beach local is notoriously compromised, and Epstein spread a lot of money around in that community, through donations and charity. It gave him a lot of leeway. Remember those offices also handled the Kennedy rape incident many years prior.

Fam Acosta broke the law period ain’t no juelzing out of that for him... he had the evidence to charge Epstein and what he do? Work in cohorts with Epstein lawyer for a slap on the wrist then the audacity to keep all that info from the victims .. he gotta go
 

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Fam Acosta broke the law period ain’t no juelzing out of that for him... he had the evidence to charge Epstein and what he do? Work in cohorts with Epstein lawyer for a slap on the wrist then the audacity to keep all that info from the victims .. he gotta go

The DOJ found that he did, or a federal judge, at least, that the deal violated norms. I agree, he should step down, though his replacement may be worse, as is always a reality in this administration. A lot of times there can be, or could be an indictment, but they know it's going to be weak case, and one they can possibly lose. Those losses matter in federal court, they can become precedents, for prosecutors not bringing cases. Not saying it isn't cowardly, or shameful, it's both, but it's more complicated than that.

You could write up a 53 page indictment on someone like Flynn, charge all kinds of crazy shyt, but will it all stick? Probably not. Look at Bob McDonnell, Gov VA, he had, what I thought, and a jury thought, was a can't miss indictment, yet his conviction was vacated, and now is used to further dilute corruption cases. And that's Bob McDonnell some broke loser from VA. Think about Epsetin's money and lawyers. Dershowetiz is a has been scumball, but at the time, he was heavy in the legal field, and Epstein had like 5 lawyers.
 

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The DOJ found that he did, or a federal judge, at least, that the deal violated norms. I agree, he should step down, though his replacement may be worse, as is always a reality in this administration. A lot of times there can be, or could be an indictment, but they know it's going to be weak case, and one they can possibly lose. Those losses matter in federal court, they can become precedents, for prosecutors not bringing cases. Not saying it isn't cowardly, or shameful, it's both, but it's more complicated than that.

You could write up a 53 page indictment on someone like Flynn, charge all kinds of crazy shyt, but will it all stick? Probably not. Look at Bob McDonnell, Gov VA, he had, what I thought, and a jury thought, was a can't miss indictment, yet his conviction was vacated, and now is used to further dilute corruption cases. And that's Bob McDonnell some broke loser from VA. Think about Epsetin's money and lawyers. Dershowetiz is a has been scumball, but at the time, he was heavy in the legal field, and Epstein had like 5 lawyers.
is epstein gonna have any leg to stand on about double jeopardy?
 

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People are losing perspective, and going into the abyss already. Let the standing charges process, and stay with that. It's good to know all the info, but some of us get caught in these fantasy scenarios, it's like fan fiction at some points. Epstein wasn't let go by the Department of Justice, a US Attorney made a deal, (yes, a disgraceful one) for some mostly known and some slightly unknown reasons. This isn't "No Way Out" or "The Art Of War" (1999 Wesley Snipes thriller lol)

A lot of people don't get it, like you can indict someone with a grand jury, and the charges will get torn up at trial, by the right team of attorneys. It isn't as clear cut as the average human rationale would like it to be. They always want a vast, (yet easy to piece together on Twitter) conspiracy, with bad guys and good guys. The world doesn't work like that.
I dont' really care

the info is all I need

cause we know trump colluded buy acting like mueller not nailing him is exoneration
 

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No, not at all, but his lawyers will try, the first words out of his lawyers mouth, have been that this is an old case, and old news. Legally, the case was brought in a different district, and he was never charged federally, only in the state, so he has no real legal standing, but they are going to try any and everything to get this indictment dismissed. The feds are going to try and add on, to double the damage. Both sides are in for the legal fight of their careers.
 

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People are losing perspective, and going into the abyss already. Let the standing charges process, and stay with that. It's good to know all the info, but some of us get caught in these fantasy scenarios, it's like fan fiction at some points. Epstein wasn't let go by the Department of Justice, a US Attorney made a deal, (yes, a disgraceful one) for some mostly known and some slightly unknown reasons. This isn't "No Way Out" or "The Art Of War" (1999 Wesley Snipes thriller lol)

A lot of people don't get it, like you can indict someone with a grand jury, and the charges will get torn up at trial, by the right team of attorneys. It isn't as clear cut as the average human rationale would like it to be. They always want a vast, (yet easy to piece together on Twitter) conspiracy, with bad guys and good guys. The world doesn't work like that.

Breh we both know possessing child porn is a strict liability offense. Even if you have the best attorneys in the world, you’re unlikely to be able to dodge those charges. He’s obviously a psychopath and a collector. This isn’t your typical “local prosecutor goes easy on X and X happens to be owner of the largest employer in the city” stories. The deal he received required buy in from multiple officials (local, state and federal) and we both know that shyt like this goes thru multiple levels of review.

The “oh there’s nothing to see here folks...don’t be so conspiratorial...it’s just the way things happen” schtick has worn awfully thin the last cpl years.
 

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I am not claiming I am an expert, but I read the (I think only book) on this 2 years ago, so I am familiar with it, the case had a lot of problems from the very outset. It took years to bring, and was constantly on the verge of falling apart, due to Epstein's influence, and the incompetence of the local Palm beach authorities, not to mention the jurisdictional battles, over who wanted, and who would investigate. By the time it came to the US Attorneys Office, it had been years, since the first initial reports, the case was cold. The victims were scattered, in some cases, out of the jurisdiction, it was messy. The prosecutors drafted an indictment, because they didn't want to let this go, and then Acosta made the deal. I think it was a disgraceful deal, but I don't see it as outright corruption.

There is A LOT to see here, but it isn't what people are implying, I am not even sure what that is, though. That Epsetein bought a US Attorney? I don't buy it. That he was an intelligence asset, and Acosta had to let him walk? I don't buy it either. Money and power go a long way, it's confluence of factors. It isn't linear, and it's complicated.
 

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Breh we both know possessing child porn is a strict liability offense. Even if you have the best attorneys in the world, you’re unlikely to be able to dodge those charges. He’s obviously a psychopath and a collector. This isn’t your typical “local prosecutor goes easy on X and X happens to be owner of the largest employer in the city” stories. The deal he received required buy in from multiple officials (local, state and federal) and we both know that shyt like this goes thru multiple levels of review.

The “oh there’s nothing to see here folks...don’t be so conspiratorial...it’s just the way things happen” schtick has worn awfully thin the last cpl years.
People have known since 2002! that he had weird photos in his crib.

Ive been reading about this for AGES.

It was literally written about CONTEMPORARILY!
 

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I am not claiming I am an expert, but I read the (I think only book) on this 2 years ago, so I am familiar with it, the case had a lot of problems from the very outset. It took years to bring, and was constantly on the verge of falling apart, due to Epstein's influence, and the incompetence of the local Palm beach authorities, not to mention the jurisdictional battles, over who wanted, and who would investigate. By the time it came to the US Attorneys Office, it had been years, since the first initial reports, the case was cold. The victims were scattered, in some cases, out of the jurisdiction, it was messy. The prosecutors drafted an indictment, because they didn't want to let this go, and then Acosta made the deal. I think it was a disgraceful deal, but I don't see it as outright corruption.

There is A LOT to see here, but it isn't what people are implying, I am not even sure what that is, though. That Epsetein bought a US Attorney? I don't buy it. That he was an intelligence asset, and Acosta had to let him walk? I don't buy it either. Money and power go a long way, it's confluence of factors. It isn't linear, and it's complicated.

You've been captured lol.
 
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