Epilepsy drug turns out to help adults acquire perfect pitch and learn language like kids

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Epilepsy drug turns out to help adults acquire perfect pitch and learn language like kids

By Scott Kaufman
Monday, January 6, 2014 9:50 EST
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A team of researchers from across the globe believe they have discovered a means of re-opening “critical periods” in brain development, allowing adults to acquire abilities — such as perfect pitch or fluency in language — that could previously only be acquired early in life.

According to the study in Frontiers in Systems Neuroscience, the mood-stabilizing drug valproate allows the adult brain to absorb new information as effortlessly as it did during critical windows in childhood.

A critical period is “a fixed window of time, usually early in an organism’s lifespan, during which experience has lasting effects on the development of brain function and behavior.” They are, for example, what allows children to enter into language without any formal training in grammar or vocabulary.

The researchers postulated that because such periods close when enzymes “impose ‘brakes’ on neuroplasticity,” a drug that blocks the productions of those enzymes might be able to “reopen critical-period neuroplasticity.”

Takao Hensch, a molecular biologist at Harvard, told NPR about the experiment in which the enzyme-inhibitor valproate was administered to adult males with no musical training as they attempted to acquire absolute or “perfect” pitch. They used absolute pitch as a means of measuring plasticity because “there are no known cases of an adult successfully acquiring it.”

The men — half of whom took valproate, the other half a placebo — performed online tasks to train their ears to recognize tone.

“Given the difficulty of improving [absolute pitch] performance in adulthood,” the researchers wrote, “we hypothesize that in our task, even a small advantage in pitch class identification in [the valproate group] as compared to the placebo group is suggestive of the reopening of plasticity, as musically naïve participants were trained for a relatively short time period on several pitch classes, conditions under which no existing study has shown any improvement in [absolute pitch].”

The results were that those who took the valproate scored much higher on pitch tests than those who underwent similar training but only took the placebo.

“Our study,” the authors conclude, “is the first to show a change in [absolute pitch recognition] with any kind of drug treatment. The finding that [valproate] can restore plasticity in a fundamental perceptual system in adulthood provides compelling evidence that one of the modes of action for [valproate] in psychiatric treatment may be to facilitate reorganization and rewiring of otherwise firmly established pathways in the brain.”
 

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HMMMM... couple this with Nuvigil and you have a "limitless" combo. Open mind + endless non cracked out energy....= Great education
 
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I never took Adderall/Ritalin through college, but I want to see what it's like to study with that super-focus.

This sounds good, too. All I had was black coffee and the occasional full night's sleep.
 

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Placebo garbage. If you Really want to learn something o u'll learn that shyt. nikkas learn meaningless statistics for athletes but say learning a language is hard.
 

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The results were that those who took the valproate scored much higher on pitch tests than those who underwent similar training but only took the placebo.

At least read the fukking article before forming an opinion. The fukk? :what:
I did. I just dont believe it.
 

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Because who needs the scientific method when we can just come to conclusions based on our own personal observations right?
Sometimes yea. Who needs the scientific method when you have evolution. :manny:
You feel me nikka lets get it poppin :whoo:
 

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Read this article on reddit, but reading after reading teh replies I hope people don't splurge on stuff like this.

I know this drug seems like something that everyone should take to become musical geniuses, but anticonvulsants are nothing to mess with. I can't talk for experience about Valproate, but I've been on Topamax for migraines. Confusion sounds like a minor side effect, but it was called dopeamax for a reason. They start absolute havoc in your frontal cortex and some days you become straight up incoherent. I would have periods of my day where I would be in blackout mode, I was doing absolutely poorly in school. Once again I don't know much about VPA, but if it works similarly to topamax, you cannot just stop taking them. When you stop you are suddenly at a high risk for seizures and other neurological conditions. Those things are pretty nasty.

EDIT: Here's another /r/science thread about using Topamax to treat cocaine addiction. Peoples stories paint a good picture on what its like to be on it.

Absolutely. You need only check out r/epilepsy to see the devastating trade-offs you make in order to take anticonvulsants. Struggling with the side-effects of anticonvulsants, in my experience, is as hard to deal with as epilepsy itself.

Agreed. Lamictal has messed my memory up insanely. I can't even remember the simplest things at work anymore. I have to write everything down. I'm also starting to have vertigo (the last few months) and I constantly feel a little dizzy and not quite there. It's only getting worse too.

I've been on Keppra for about six months and aside from it messing up my memory, I have these rage episodes. Like, I get so angry I can't think straight. Told my neurologist and he said, "well, would you rather have seizures?"

Apparently everyone I've talked to has had an awful time on Keppra.

As for the side effects themselves:
Allergic reaction: Itching or hives, swelling in your face or hands, swelling or tingling in your mouth or throat, chest tightness, trouble breathing

Confusion, problems with memory, muscle twitching, problems with balance, walking, or speech

Dark urine or pale stools, loss of appetite, pain in your upper stomach, yellow skin or eyes

Fever, chills, cough, sore throat, or body aches

Rapid weight gain, swelling in your hands, ankles, or feet

Sudden and severe stomach pain, nausea, vomiting,

Thoughts of hurting yourself, depression, unusual changes in behavior

Unusual bleeding, bruising, or weakness
 

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what's nuvigil?
It's a drug that is supposed to combat narcolepsy but the off label use is focus and awareness minus the jitters. I got a script from my doc when I was working long nights and then not being able to get sleep. It's gold bruh. I still take them but like once in a blue moon when I know i didn't get enough sleep or need to be super focused. I found that if I took them for 3 days i a row i got grumpy as all hell.

It really is a damn cool thing to have though it doesn't feel like you're on anythign you just feel alert.

My understanding is that they are giving it to soldiers to help them stay awake.
 
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