Emulating White Rednecks is why some Blacks are ignorant?

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What do you think of this guys argument? Do it have some validity? Here's an excerpt.

Prophets of Culture: “Who’s Your Daddy:” Our Creeping Cultural Crisis
So ... what does this have to do with the ol’ redneck culture? Plenty.

The roots of this crisis do not go back to Africa, but to the old South. Few of us remember this, but at at one time, the dominant influence in the old South was a chaotic culture that came from pre-18th Century regions of the British Isles, namely, 1) the Scottish highlands, 2) the “midlands” – the anarchic region between England and Scotland and 3) what is now Northern Ireland. Before the formation of the United Kingdom, these regions were unstable, lawless, violent and uncontrollable. Most southern Whites can trace their roots back to these regions.

They arrived in the American South with this chaotic culture in tow, and the result was the ol’ southern “redneck” culture. The values of this culture produced self-sabotaging, self-destructive behavior patterns, including: drunkenness, gang formation, “talkin’ trash”, a scornful attitude toward education and boisterous exhibitionism, to name a few. These rednecks spent their energies on useless bling; wealth was used primarily conspicuous consumption and reckless pursuits of pleasure and excitement. 1

A cavalier attitude toward marriage and family was a major component of the ol’ redneck culture, and instant sexual gratification led to single moms and fatherless children becoming the rule, rather than the exception. When Africans arrived in chains, having been stripped of their native culture, many ended up absorbing much of this ol’ redneck culture. This partly explains the plantation phenomenon of the “stud” that sired children but never fathered them. Of course, many slaves never fully absorbed this chaotic culture. As a result they continued to value marriage and family in spite of the hostile cultural and economic forces that surrounded them. 2

After emancipation, many African Americans who were devastated by the ol’ redneck culture eventually rose above it. They became what I call “achievers.” The values that governed their lives included: valuing work as a means of getting ahead, delayed gratification for the sake of a better future and goal orientation involving planning. Those who participated in the great northern migration generally succeeded in spite of racial discrimination in housing and employment. However those who continued to wallow in the ol’ redneck culture became what I call “non-achievers.” Unlike the achievers, they generally did not succeed when they migrated to the urban North. Thus, for many non-achievers, the ol’ redneck culture morphed into what we now recognize as “ghetto culture.” The values that governed their lives included devaluing work as a means of getting ahead, instant gratification with a disregard for the future, and crisis orientation with no planning.
 

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If historical aspect is accurate I could see this as being a very large portion of what we see today. It only makes sense in the south that AA would copy what was forced on them, particularly a self-fulfilling cultural cancer. The more it's practiced the worse it gets.


What about the north though? While it has always seamed to me that dudes coming out the south were a little more ignorant (no offense), no clearer display of this can be found than in Hip hop. Make'em say Uhhhh!!!! and "Back That Thang Up" vs Anything coming out of NY at the same time...
 

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If historical aspect is accurate I could see this as being a very large portion of what we see today. It only makes sense in the south that AA would copy what was forced on them, particularly a self-fulfilling cultural cancer. The more it's practiced the worse it gets.


What about the north though? While it has always seamed to me that dudes coming out the south were a little more ignorant (no offense), no clearer display of this can be found than in Hip hop. Make'em say Uhhhh!!!! and "Back That Thang Up" vs Anything coming out of NY at the same time...

If you believe the thread starter post is true then I think the North vs South thing is just being exposed to more cultures in a big city vs a town or county.
 

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I do a redneck voice whenever I play call of duty on xbox live, shyt is :heh: status because everyone instantly hates me
 

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buncha country ass black rednecks out here in Louisiana
 

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If you believe the thread starter post is true then I think the North vs South thing is just being exposed to more cultures in a big city vs a town or county.

care to comment on what it is you're alluding to? For the sake of argument do you think what was posted was incorrect? If so how?
 

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care to comment on what it is you're alluding to? For the sake of argument do you think what was posted was incorrect? If so how?

Hard to say it sounds right but it is hard to determine what cultures influenced slaves considering it was a long time ago. Also I have no idea how a person would go about proving that theory.

But I am commenting on your idea of North vs South rappers content. I just think northern rappers are influenced by many different cultures around them vs southern rappers who are just use to southern culture.
 

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Hard to say it sounds right but it is hard to determine what cultures influenced slaves considering it was a long time ago. Also I have no idea how a person would go about proving that theory.

But I am commenting on your idea of North vs South rappers content. I just think northern rappers are influenced by many different cultures around them vs southern rappers who are just use to southern culture.

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i see what you're saying now. I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at but it makes sense now.
 

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ignorance is subjective, of course, but here we go...

some blacks are ignorant because ignorance is the natural state of human beings.

humans are born ignorant, and become less ignorant through education, experience, and self reflection.

some people will never enjoy or have the ability to do those three things, in fact, rural people tend to hate experiencing new things (interacting with foreigners, people of different skin colors, gays, etc.) often have limited access to educational institutions (museums, theaters), and dont think there is any question in the universe their holy book cant answer.

basically, if you understand the pathology of sarah palin and her supporters, then you understand ignorant black people (and other colors of ignorant people), not because of palin's ancestors influence, but because of the way rural areas or socially and economically segregated urban areas tend to foster communities.

keep in mind, black people are largely southern or have recent southern ancestry and are also largely segregated even in many urban areas both socially and economically. now that i think about it, this ties in to the dinesh d'souza thread...
 
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