Eddie Guerrero when he collapsed in the ring
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It's a moot point now because...well...
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
It was a week after judgement day 2004
Cartier Murphy
Apathy’s a Tragedy & Boredom is a Crime
This was like, right after the Judgment Day match where he and JBL had probably the bloodiest match in WWE history. I think him passing out was to sell just how much blood he lost in that match.
Bars4TheCause
Pro
Probably summer of 2004 since JBL and The Dudleys are on Smackdown. I don't remember this and I used to watch every week back then.
General Mills
More often than not I tend to take that L.
JBL was a GREAT Heel.
Too bad he was garbage in the ring.
General Mills
More often than not I tend to take that L.
I think that enhanced his heelness. This dude during his run made you hate him. He routinely cheated and squeaked out wins despite having nominal talent.
Old school heel tactics
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
The problem is that, same as every heel they've booked since 2003 really, he was booked to look like a fluke who was nothing close to legit. 100% of his title matches from when he won it to no way out 2005 had a fukkery finish. Hard to take anyone serious when they have 0 signature performances or wins to legitimize them.
General Mills
More often than not I tend to take that L.
I think he was the last of the true heels. He did a interview where he said he never did anything to elicit a positive reaction from the crowd.
To me a lot of heels want to be heel and be cool like a baby face at the same time. They want to be to cool heel.
JBL went straight for negative fukkery 100% of the time . If by accident he did get a good reaction he would immediately follow up with a heel response to elicit boos.
I have no problem with a heel winning by the skin of his teeth and cheating to do so. Jbl winning when he was not supposed to and wearing that fukking cowboy hat legit pissed people off. Which I think means he did a great job .
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
Cheating is one thing. Every single title match ending with someone interfering to save you because they have beef with your opponent is another. Makes you an afterthought and it doesn't prove that you belong in that tier.
General Mills
More often than not I tend to take that L.
I definitely understand where you are coming from. Personally I thoroughly enjoyed his heel run. But yeah I can see what you are saying too.
River_trey
Pro
What are you talking about? Thats heel booking 101. Make the fans at home say "JBL sucks he cant win his own fights" "He wouldnt stand a chance if this was fair"
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
Let him cheat to win, but when it's some random run in that doesn't have anything to do with him, or like summer slam where taker just gets fed up and clobbers him with the belt it makes him look like an afterthought. Same reason that his title defense against Brock made Rollins look bad. Match ended with a run in that had nothing to do with him and makes him an afterthought. The fact that he never won the title again makes him look even more like a fluke. He needed some kind of signature win where even if he cheated, it was his effort that won. It at least shows he's legit. If the guy holding the title is booked like a fluke or a joke, how valuable is the title? If there has to be interference finishes, let it be HHH evolution type interference where his boys are the ones that help him and he's the main focus at the end of the match.
JBL knew something was wrong, could have gone for a softer pin in lieu. But I know the show must go on. He may have made the best choice for tellin ref to pound it out, who knows what them Dudleys woulda done
