That was a good show. I just sat and watched all of it.
I'm struck at how they could even have this type of conversation and everyone can give their input and although may disagree still remain civil. We can say a lot about the older generations but, by God, they certainly weren't like our current overly emotional, overly pc, cancel-happy generation of perpetual im-matures that we're dealing with today.
There has been something that has been bothering me about this whole conversation around Nick Cannon. Everybody has been so quick to denounce the views, or denounce Farrakhan, or the NOI as black supremacist or anti-semetic, and no one prominent in the discussion has asked where does this rhetoric come from and why?
Dr. Welsing summarized it so succinctly in the video - there are two ways we can tackle white supremacy a) white people need to become comfortable with being white and being a minority or b) black people should stop thinking white people will voluntarily commit genetic suicide, and in that expectation, like in chess, we need to play the black side of the chess board.
This conversation is missing the fact that the rhetoric that Nick Cannon was trying to articulate is born out of blacks trying to play the black side of the chess board.
Us being pushed to play both offense and defense.
Which is why I may not agree with much of the rhetoric, but I will always respect it because I know the long game. And I agree with the long game. Justice.
I'm sure you've seen the conversation in the other Nick Cannon thread where I mentioned Julius Rosenwald and another poster dropped a quote of his that either he or
I didn't understand. The quote was something to the extent of him not being concerned with equality for blacks but that justice for blacks must be attained by any and all measures. The other poster saw "not interested in equality for blacks" and stopped there, but the latter portion of that quote was the most significant, which was the attainment of justice by all measures, because that, according to Dr. Welsing, will start the process of dismantling the system of white supremacy.
I thought she was very logical in her presentation.
I think I counted maybe only three audience members who actually spoke that had the capacity to entertain what she was saying.
One was the black woman who cited the study of the remains of the oldest human in Africa. She was very well-spoken.
The other was the white woman who admitted that that Dr. Welsing actually presented a fair case but she would lose a lot of *white* people talking about chocolates and bowling balls. And although I think she missed Welsing's point about the subconsciousness and the meanings behind symbols, it highlights the very present problem with afrocentrics and their ability to mix serious scholarship with conspiracies and why many people today don't take "hoteps" seriously.
In actuality, the show was pretty funny and at first you get the feeling that the host was making a mockery of her but as it progresses you can tell that he actually respects her and her points even if he disagrees.
Donahue makes a good point, especially to the black audience members who got emotional about the elder white lady admitting that she was racist. This is where our emotion hurts us. We can't engage in a conversation if we can't be ok with people being honest.
And I like how Dr. Welsing checked "Ms. Bourgie Medical Student from Massachusetts" who self-admittedly grew up middle class and got along perfectly fine with whites. Basically told her "I'm old black money, girl have a seat."
Funnily enough, I was in a similar conversation with Welsing's sister, Lorna Cress, only I was was "Mr. Bourgie Johnny Come-lately" and Lorna dismissed me in a similar fashion. It ended in her giving and signing my current copy of the Isis Papers. That's another story for another time.
One thing Dr. Welsing talked about that I don't hear too many afro-centrics talk about is self-dependency and how she related that to the black family. Basically said a black woman should not have a child before 30 and a black man before 35 and that black families should have no more than 2 children. I wonder what afro-centrics think about that?
All in all, good video.
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