Does PBC have the best fighter in any of the major divisions?

[desjardins]

First off I'm not hating on PBC/Haymon. Let's just get that out of the way. I was wondering this because I believe PBC has the best crop of fighters.....but at the same time I don't really think they have anyone that is in the pound 4 pound discussion. (who promotes roman gonzalez?)
They are good mainly because they have so MANY fighters AND they have mainly YOUNG fighters who will be in the P4P discussion in 5-10 yrs (spence, etc)

so i'll list the main divisions most ppl care about and who i think is the best in that division:
HW: Luis Ortiz
Light HW: Kov
Super MW: Ward
MW: GGG
Jr MW: Canelo
WW: Winner of Manny vs. Bradley (this is the only debatable division imo)
Jr WW: Crawford


Thoughts?

 

[Mook]

You only think they dont have the best cause no one ever fights each other.

So in closing; Al Haymon sucks at his job as a promoter.

 

[desjardins]

You only think they dont have the best cause no one ever fights each other.

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Care to elaborate? What I think you are trying to say is a logical fallacy since I think we can compare fighters based on performances even if they haven't fought each other. For example I thought Floyd Mayweather was better than Tim Bradley (when he was undefeated) even thought they had never and would never fight.

So in closing; Al Haymon sucks at his job as a promoter

No, I think Haymon is clearly the best promoter in the game right now and that's the primary reason why so many young fighters pick him over the other promoters. Compare the career arc of Errol Spence against Jesse Hart, who at one time was a better prospect. They both haven't really fought anyone yet but the sheer promotion of Spence has him on another level right now as far as expectations and probably also paychecks.


Now that I've addressed the diversions do you care to actually answer the question in the OP?

 

[Mook]

Care to elaborate? What I think you are trying to say is a logical fallacy since I think we can compare fighters based on performances even if they haven't fought each other. For example I thought Floyd Mayweather was better than Tim Bradley (when he was undefeated) even thought they had never and would never fight.





No, I think Haymon is clearly the best promoter in the game right now and that's the primary reason why so many young fighters pick him over the other promoters. Compare the career arc of Errol Spence against Jesse Hart, who at one time was a better prospect. They both haven't really fought anyone yet but the sheer promotion of Spence has him on another level right now as far as expectations and probably also paychecks.


Now that I've addressed the diversions do you care to actually answer the question in the OP?

No hes a great manager, he's a shytty promoter.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

You only think they dont have the best cause no one ever fights each other.

So in closing; Al Haymon sucks at his job as a promoter.

He's a manager, not a match maker.

 

[Mook]

He's a manager, not a match maker.

And thats why he sucks as a promoter. Thank you.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

And thats why he sucks as a promoter. Thank you.

For what sir? He needs to lure Schaef dog out of hiding, and force winner of sometimes/bootleg bradley to fight swift then winner fights whoever has the TR belt would be nice.

Also, people would argue the best LHW is supa pimp or SOG(once he beats down Barrera), and BeterBeast is right behind all of them so. You have Jack, DeGale and Matrix all at 168 who are the best who are PBC so, yeah.

 

[patscorpio]

HW - No
CW - No
LHW - Yes because kovalev is not the lineal champ; superman is even though superman's comp outside of fonfara is not top 10 worthy
SMW - right now I'll give them a yes; because Jack did the damn thing last year
MW - No
LMW - Canelo has not fought at 154 legit since the Floyd fight and holds no belts there; on the pbc side there's no clarity due to the fact the cats have not got in the mix yet to fight
WW - No..and i agree Pac-Bradley will hold a little more significance than a Swift-Guerrero or Vazquez/Martinez...the winner of Swift/Thurman/Porter would hold some weight
LWW - No
LW - Yes
SFW - No
FW - Just like WW & LMW..some unification needs to happen to get some clarification going
SBW - No - rigo is the man in this division
BW - No

PBC doesn't really have a presence under 118

 

[George's Dilemma]

At least this thread wasnt some racist nonsense masquerading as a legitimate question about Al Haymon's methods.

 

[y que]

pbc is trash

hopefully thurman goes to goldenboy for some real fights

there's nothing for him with al heyman after he beats porter

 

[krackdagawd]

pbc is trash

hopefully thurman goes to goldenboy for some real fights

there's nothing for him with al heyman after he beats porter

Yeah Thurman vs Linares on deck

 

[y que]

Yeah Thurman vs Linares on deck

ward

 

[krackdagawd]

ward

negged

#SOGGang

 

[y que]

negged

#SOGGang

simps gon simp

 

[The Old Master]

Canelo isn't a JMW anymore. Even if he was, it wouldn't matter. Lara is the best in that division. So, to answer your question, yes.