Does Our Solar System Sit Still? If We Revolve Around The Sun..Check This Out Friends

[Dirty_Jerz]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws"]The helical model - our Galaxy is a vortex - YouTube[/ame]






havent really given it to much thought but seems more accurate than what would normally be assumed


what yall think about this?

 

[daze23]

havent really given it to much thought but seems more accurate than what would normally be assumed

what yall think about this?

you assumed the sun wasn't moving relative to the galaxy?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

you assumed the sun wasn't moving relative to the galaxy?

no i wasnt really thinking about the sun moving in a vortex pattern instead of moving in an even line around whatever it is the sun floats around

 

[rapbeats]

The helical model - our solar system is a vortex - YouTube





The helical model - our Galaxy is a vortex - YouTube






havent really given it to much thought but seems more accurate than what would normally be assumed


what yall think about this?

makes sense.

 

[daze23]

no i wasnt really thinking about the sun moving in a vortex pattern instead of moving in an even line around whatever it is the sun floats around

it's just relative motion. you could find a point of reference where it wouldn't look like a "vortex" either

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

it's just relative motion. you could find a point of reference where it wouldn't look like a "vortex" either

i dont know why you seem so pessimistic right now but i dont think its a stretch to say from any scaled level in our known world this "vortex" or "spiral" is a constant pattern everywhere including the planets/suns/moons/stars


infact i dont think there is anything that doesnt follow that pattern so maybe you are actually completely wrong

 

[daze23]

i dont know why you seem so pessimistic right now but i dont think its a stretch to say from any scaled level in our known world this "vortex" or "spiral" is a constant pattern everywhere including the planets/suns/moons/stars

infact i dont think there is anything that doesnt follow that pattern so maybe you are actually completely wrong

completely wrong about what?

it's all about the point of reference you observe from. if I'm on a moving train, throwing a ball up and catching it when it comes back down, I see the ball moving up and down in a straight line. however a person on the ground (not in the train) would observe the ball following a wave-like pattern. neither person is "wrong", it's just a different perspective

 

[Mr. Somebody]

How far into our own galaxy have we traveled?

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

DID OP JUST LEARN THE MILKY WAY GALAXY EXISTS, BROTHER?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

completely wrong about what?

it's all about the point of reference you observe from. if I'm on a moving train, throwing a ball up and catching it when it comes back down, I see the ball moving up and down in a straight line. however a person on the ground (not in the train) would observe the ball following a wave-like pattern. neither person is "wrong", it's just a different perspective

completely wrong about point of reference


if you trace the spiral pattern on your finger tips with a pencil or something like that you are going to feel the pattern of a circular-spiralish motion even if your eyes are closed and if they are open obviously looking down you would see it


if someone was was to watch you trace it though while your thumb is flat and they look at it from a horizontal view with their eyes on a equal level of the flat thumb they would see a spiral all the same they just might not recognize it as a spiral

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

How far into our own galaxy have we traveled?

im not sure exactly

 

[daze23]

completely wrong about point of reference

if you trace the spiral pattern on your finger tips with a pencil or something like that you are going to feel the pattern of a circular-spiralish motion even if your eyes are closed and if they are open obviously looking down you would see it

if someone was was to watch you trace it though while your thumb is flat and they look at it from a horizontal view with their eyes on a equal level of the flat thumb they would see a spiral all the same they just might not recognize it as a spiral

you're talking about what is basically a 2D pattern, with one frame of reference. that's quite different from the observation of the movement of objects in 3D space, where the observer may also be in motion in said 3D space

but never the less, your fingerprint would look quite different if the observer was on the surface and small enough to fit in the grooves

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

you're talking about what is basically a 2D pattern, with one frame of reference. that's quite different from the observation of the movement of objects in 3D space, where the observer may also be in motion in said 3D space

but never the less, your fingerprint would look quite different if the observer was on the surface and small enough to fit in the grooves

you have a point but that wouldnt change the fact of it going up and down in that order though would it? or maybe that there really isnt an up or down?

if someone was on the surface of a finger print they wouldnt see the pattern unless they mapped it out and in any case that pattern still exists and there would still be spiral patterns everywhere around them at their own scale still including their own finger prints

my original question and point to you was what scale does this pattern not arise?/there is none i dont think......as well as regardless if you cannot perceive it because of your POV doesnt mean that is not what is actually happening and just because your POV looks this way and theirs looks this way doesnt mean both are correct either or either of them are correct at all

 

[daze23]

my original question and point to you was what scale does this pattern not arise?

from our perspective on Earth, we don't observe this "vortex" of motion in the solar system. it has to be inferred

if the solar system was just the Earth and the Sun, we would have pretty much no way of knowing if it was orbiting us, or if we were orbiting it. it was only through the observation of the planets that this was discovered. and not right away either, as first they tried to explain the planets motion with some crazy shyt

it made no sense, but it did fit the observations

 

[aqualung]

Physics is DIFFICULT cuz there's calculus in it. :-/

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