Does Nintendo have as much to do with Microsoft's Larry Holmes status as Sony?

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Now before you pull a :aicmon: :stopitslime: :what: :wtf: :childplease: :shaq2: stay with me for a sec.

At the time the Wii U was officially announced, it came with the revelation that rather than a true next-gen console, it would only be marginally better than a PS3/360, which put no real pressure on Sony or Microsoft to hurry up their next gen console because their current gens could easily compete with the Wii U for a couple of years.

While that might seem like it is a small thing, I think that's where Microsoft fukked up. While I'm sure they were already knee-deep in developing their next gen console, I think they started aiming for a later timeframe (like 2014) once they realized Nintendo would not be getting a headstart in the next gen console race, and assuming that Sony, who had still so many big PS3 releases set for 2013 (GOW: Ascension, The Last Of Us, Beyond: Two Souls) would also wait until 2014 for the next gen reveal.

Of course they miscalculated how much Sony was hurt from the PS3 release fukk-up that allowed Microsoft to have a full year head start, and how determined they were to not repeat that same mistake and thus made sure they would be getting a console out before Microsoft.

And the consequences are visible now. Microsoft scrambled to get their shyt together when they found out Sony was doing their big PS4 reveal in February and thus aiming for a late 2013 release (if they would've dropped it in 2014, they could've waited until E3 with the reveal so that was clearly done on purpose). And to not completely look flabby & sick, Microsoft quickly put out word they would do their own console reveal, which ended up taking place a mere two weeks before E3, pretty much showing that they were aiming for an E3 reveal but did a separate event to make it seem like they weren't struggling behind.

To get back to the point I'm trying to make, if Nintendo had delivered a more next-gen worthy console with the Wii U, I think Microsoft would've put more pressure on getting their next gen console out at a faster pace as to not run behind on both Sony and Nintendo. But because Nintendo proved to be no competition (in terms of hardware) they got too comfy while Sony was working hard to make up for their mistakes in the past.

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TL;DR version: Nintendo and Sony tag-teamed Microsoft, the first by lowering the expectations of their opponent and the latter by putting up twice the fight compared to their last match.
 

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MS announced they were having their own event well before Sony had theirs. They just didnt announce when it would be.
 

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MS announced they were having their own event well before Sony had theirs. They just didnt announce when it would be.

I can't remember but if you say so I guess it's true. But what does that say about Microsoft if they announced their release event first but still let their competitor get the drop on them by three months?
 

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I can't remember but if you say so I guess it's true. But what does that say about Microsoft if they announced their release event first but still let their competitor get the drop on them by three months?

You can spin it as a loss either way. If MS has their reveal soon after Sony's then people will say Sony put the pressure on them and MS was unprepared. They have it later and closer to E3 and people say its too close to E3 and they are just trying to squeeze something in.

There was a statement made last year that both Sony and MS would be having their own events to announce their consoles and wouldn't do it at E3. Other than that we don't know what timetables each company had. We don't know if May was the original month MS planned to show their console or not.
 

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No. Once M$ figured they had some hold of the gaming market they figured they would go for the kill and make the gaming market like the pc os market. Only thing their analyst and marketers fail to throw In the power of gamers. Also with the X1 that want to take control of the cable/roku market with their apps and kinect. They bit off more than they can chew
 

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MS announced they were having their own event well before Sony had theirs. They just didnt announce when it would be.

exactly, but I do think that MS didn't think Sony would drop this year. They probably thought 2014 as well. The specs of the Xbox 1, the rumors of the yields on the ESRAM being shytty, games being a few months behind for MS 1st party titles....it makes sense. And now they seem to be rushing things...

The PS4 reveal did catch them off guard I think, especially the memory upgrade.
 
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