Does Ethiopia 🇪🇹 want to go to war with Somalia 🇸🇴 to secure ocean access?

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I don't understand how Eritrea hugs the whole coast like that. Ethiopia should have access, otherwise it's a rope around their neck
 

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I don't understand how Eritrea hugs the whole coast like that. Ethiopia should have access, otherwise it's a rope around their neck
To play devil's advocate...Africa is full land locked countries. Why is Ethiopia any different from, say, Zimbabwe?
 

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To play devil's advocate...Africa is full land locked countries. Why is Ethiopia any different from, say, Zimbabwe?

I would say the way Eritreas history, demographics and culture is intertwined with Ethiopia (especially north Ethiopia) is the distinguishing factor

Especially when alot of the coastal areas is afar/Muslim, I don't see how Eritrea claims it anymore than Ethiopia does

I see Eritrea as the Djibouti to Ethiopia's Somalia, but this isn't my expertise and I defer to one who has it
 

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I would say the way Eritreas history, demographics and culture is intertwined with Ethiopia (especially north Ethiopia) is the distinguishing factor

Especially when alot of the coastal areas is afar/Muslim, I don't see how Eritrea claims it anymore than Ethiopia does

I see Eritrea as the Djibouti to Ethiopia's Somalia, but this isn't my expertise and I defer to one who has it
They got to work out a deal with Eritrea if they want port access. It should be beneficial for both parties to do so. Last thing anyone needs is another 30 year war.
 

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To play devil's advocate...Africa is full land locked countries. Why is Ethiopia any different from, say, Zimbabwe?

Population is well over 100 million and growing and not having port access is hampering their long term development efforts due to the insane prices they have to pay Djibouti.

Getting a port isn’t the problem, how it’s being done is.
 

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Population is well over 100 million and growing and not having port access is hampering their long term development efforts due to the insane prices they have to pay Djibouti.

Getting a port isn’t the problem, how it’s being done is.
how should it be done? I mean they signed a land bridge deal. Thats better than a war. Russia didn’t even do that.
 

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Told you it was deliberately mistranslated by bad actors. And you ran with it, because you're all clowns with an axe to grind who couldn't care less about any truth.



A week after a mistranslated clip of Ilhan Omar sparked outrage online, some far-right House Republicans are still following through with calls for the progressive lawmaker to be censured. And the repercussions of the misinformation extend beyond the country.

The Republican representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, has gone furthest in her response to the clip, calling Omar a “foreign agent in our government”. Greene, a leading supporter of Donald Trump, who also attempted to censure the Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib in November, called Omar a “terrorist sympathizer” on X last week, adding: “Somalian first. Muslim second. She never mentions America.”

Greene said she would introduce a censure bill which could see the Minnesota Democrat removed from the remaining committees she serves, a year after Omar was forced out of the foreign affairs committee by Republicans for her criticism of Israel. The bill was on the House agenda Monday, though it is unlikely to move past political stunt.

Mocking the faulty translation, Omar pointed out that the demonym for someone from Somalia is Somali, not Somalian. “If you are gonna talk about us, at least try to get our ethnicity right,” she posted on X.

The video, which has been viewed at least 4.5m times, also misquoted Omar as saying she would “liberate” Somali territories, which were “occupied” by neighbouring Kenya and Ethiopia, a polarising issue among Somalis, some of whom weren’t satisfied with the post-colonial settlement when the Horn of Africa was partitioned by Italy, France and the UK.

Several Somalis also posted on X about the errors in the subtitles, including the translator and author Aziz Mahdi, who objected to Omar’s remarks but said: “The translation offered fails to accurately convey the essence of her talk, leading to a distorted understanding of her message. So don’t cite it.”

The Minnesota Reformer, a Minnesota-based news outlet, worked with two independent Somali translators who recorded Omar as saying: “We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim”, not that she was “Somalians first” as the video suggested.

Abdirashid Hashi, a former Somali government minister, called on Elmi to retract the video and issue an apology.

Despite attempts to clarify Omar’s message, several Republicans and rightwing figures seized upon the video without verifying the misleading translation, to launch a fresh attack on Omar, including Elon Musk, whose own ties with third countries were questioned by Joe Biden. On his X account, Musk posted: “The United States or another country. Pick one.”

Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor, called for Omar’s denaturalization and deportation, while Tom Emmer, the House majority whip, decried her comments as a “slap in the face” to her constituents and called for an ethics investigation into her remarks.

The Greene censure bill could be a further thorn in the congresswoman’s side, but Omar shrugged it off on Thursday. “I truly do not care about what that insane woman does,” she said, according to Politico.

And her party is standing behind her. Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority leader, criticised the move as a “frivolous censure resolution, designed to inflame and castigate and further divide us”.
 

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Told you it was deliberately mistranslated by bad actors. And you ran with it, because you're all clowns with an axe to grind who couldn't care less about any truth.


I can’t even call the “new” translation a “ better” translation when its just a call for “context” that doesn’t substantially differ from her initial comments

It’s a bad look and you have no argument here.

She shouldn’t even be saying the following. And the translation doesn’t give her much leeway from the original interpretation:

Several Somalis also posted on X about the errors in the subtitles, including the translator and author Aziz Mahdi, who objected to Omar’s remarks but said: “The translation offered fails to accurately convey the essence of her talk, leading to a distorted understanding of her message. So don’t cite it.”

The Minnesota Reformer, a Minnesota-based news outlet, worked with two independent Somali translators who recorded Omar as saying: “We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim”, not that she was “Somalians first” as the video suggested.


This is the Guardian trying to run cover for her when her translation still shows a sitting congresswoman engaging in home-country territorial disputes over revanchist claims.

You. Lose.
 
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