Does anyone know where to find info (if any) on migration patterns to freedman towns?

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I tried weaving this in a thread earlier-- won't do that again. My mom's side descends from a freedman town in Oklahoma. and I'm trying to find any info on migration patterns. Or just useful info on freedman towns in general. It's hard because the earliest person I know is my grandma, and she was born before Oklahoma was even a state, so no census or anything like that. I'd really like to know where they were before and how they got to Oklahoma. Any help is appreciated.
 

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"Freedman Towns" were all over the country -- some even in the South. If you want to learn Migration patterns you have to study the Great Migration I & II.

There were also "Freedman Settlements."

But, the best resource is The Warmth of Other Suns and another good one is The Promised Land: The Great Black Migration and How It Changed America.

What are you looking for specifically?

If it's migration data - you can look through Census reports --- but many of our ancestors did not answer the Census - and was off the Census grid.
 

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I tried weaving this in a thread earlier-- won't do that again. My mom's side descends from a freedman town in Oklahoma. and I'm trying to find any info on migration patterns. Or just useful info on freedman towns in general. It's hard because the earliest person I know is my grandma, and she was born before Oklahoma was even a state, so no census or anything like that. I'd really like to know where they were before and how they got to Oklahoma. Any help is appreciated.

All-Black Towns | The Encyclopedia of Oklahoma History and Culture

Most Blacks from Oklahoma I know got there via the Trail of Tears.

How Native American Slaveholders Complicate the Trail of Tears Narrative | At the Smithsonian | Smithsonian

You should go on FamilySearch.Org -- and check the Dawes Freedman Rolls -- and your family may be listed there.
 

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I managed to find some info but I'm still trying to get past Oklahoma :mjcry:

So, this is your 2nd or 3rd Great Grannie?

If you know that Grannie's name - go to Family Search.org -- and look for her on the Census.

Do you not know your Mother's Parents Names? If so, start there - and work your way through the census to find them.

I think you need to start with your Grannie (Your mom's mom) and get her parents name --- Once you get their names-- find the names of their parents -- and keep going back. That is the only way to get the info you are looking for.
 

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So, this is your 2nd or 3rd Great Grannie?

If you know that Grannie's name - go to Family Search.org -- and look for her on the Census.

Do you not know your Mother's Parents Names? If so, start there - and work your way through the census to find them.

I think you need to start with your Grannie (Your mom's mom) and get her parents name --- Once you get their names-- find the names of their parents -- and keep going back. That is the only way to get the info you are looking for.
I got as early as the 1920 census but I'm trying to find info before then.
 

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I got as early as the 1920 census but I'm trying to find info before then.

Is this your Grannie? Meaning your mom's mom. Or your Grannie's mom? I am trying to understand where you are in your search.

Do you know your Grannie's parent's names?

Do you know if she had any siblings? If so, search them -- usually you can find death cert that list parents.

Did you look at the neighbors next to them? Meaning opening up the Census records and looking at who lived next door to them - and seeing if you see anyone who shares her last name. Usually they are family members -- most of our people back then lived next door or on the same street/area back then -- due to them usually being sharecropping families.

Was she married? If so, did you search her husband (your Granddad) on the Census -- you might be able to find her -- and just had the name misspelled -- or with a different last name or her maiden name.

Push comes to shove -- you will have to order a death certificate - and get the names you need for your search/
 

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Is this your Grannie? Meaning your mom's mom. Or your Grannie's mom? I am trying to understand where you are in your search.

Do you know your Grannie's parent's names?

Do you know if she had any siblings? If so, search them -- usually you can find death cert that list parents.

Did you look at the neighbors next to them? Meaning opening up the Census records and looking at who lived next door to them - and seeing if you see anyone who shares her last name. Usually they are family members -- most of our people back then lived next door or on the same street/area back then -- due to them usually being sharecropping families.

Was she married? If so, did you search her husband (your Granddad) on the Census -- you might be able to find her -- and just had the name misspelled -- or with a different last name or her maiden name.

Push comes to shove -- you will have to order a death certificate - and get the names you need for your search/
Lol, I know what a grannie is. It's my great great grandparents. I knew their parents names prior to the thread. I found out where they were born since.

I knew my great grandmother personally (she lived just 2-3 months short of 100) and discovered her siblings names thru my mom, which helped narrow down on family search.
 

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Lol, I know what a grannie is. It's my great great grandparents. I knew their parents names prior to the thread. I found out where they were born since.

I knew my great grandmother personally (she lived just 2-3 months short of 100) and discovered her siblings names thru my mom, which helped narrow down on family search.

Got it.

I was confused cause you said she was born before Oklahoma was a state. I was like hold-up. My Grannie was born in 1905 - she had my daddy in her late 40's.

That's a blessing to have known your great grannie. Have your searched her maiden name? Have you checked the Freedman/Dawes Rolls? I am thinking that's why you can't find her.
 

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Got it.

I was confused cause you said she was born before Oklahoma was a state. I was like hold-up. My Grannie was born in 1905 - she had my daddy in her late 40's.

That's a blessing to have known your great grannie. Have your searched her maiden name? Have you checked the Freedman/Dawes Rolls? I am thinking that's why you can't find her.
She was born in 1905 too. I already found her and her family in the 1920 census-- it says her dad and both her paternal grandparents were born in Oklahoma. They were likely born before the civil war ended. Her maternal side was born in Kentucky (her grandfather, my great great) and again Oklahoma (her grandmother, my great great). Trying to find them in the 1910 census or prior before I mess with the Dawes rolls. I already know their names, the rolls don't seem to give much info beyond that, plus it's 600+ pages that's image only. No search functionality:huhldup:
 

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She was born in 1905 too. I already found her and her family in the 1920 census-- it says her dad and both her paternal grandparents were born in Oklahoma. They were likely born before the civil war ended. Her maternal side was born in Kentucky (her grandfather, my great great) and again Oklahoma (her grandmother, my great great). Trying to find them in the 1910 census or prior before I mess with the Dawes rolls. I already know their names, the rolls don't seem to give much info beyond that, plus it's 600+ pages that's image only. No search functionality:huhldup:
Have you tried this?

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